TrJean適不適任版主一職 - 保養
By Isabella
at 2015-12-29T03:20
at 2015-12-29T03:20
Table of Contents
-----原文部分內容部分恕刪------
版友好,夜深了可能回覆得比較零散
此篇針對信件內容部分尚待我去了解與釐清
後續了解後會再此篇給予回覆
我就針對我知道的部分做回應;如版友有問題請以推文或信件詢問。
再次申明,版主很歡迎版友協助共同揪業配
但版旨為美容保養為主,會比較希望是以站內信的方式通知
當然版規沒有寫,目前也沒有進行任何處置
-------------------------------
※ 引述《icebergfox (哈庫拉瑪塔塔)》之銘言:
: 我要應徵版主前一天有先來信給兩位版主說明
: TYCC 版主表示支持也會與 TrJean 版主討論
我這邊收到的信件內容,是應徵「小版主」
而我知道ice版友要選版主是看版上的應徵文才知道
小版主我非常歡迎應徵,可是我有在信件內指出
我希望可以等我與Trjean開會後,確定架構後再邀請ice版友擔任
(希望有系統化的編修精華區)
: 然而與 TYCC 版主站內信時得知
: TrJean 版主請假一個月所以無瑕管理版務
我並無提到Trjean無暇管理版務。
事實上Trjean雖忙於準備考試,但一直都有在與我討論版務及版規修定
: 版規沒有規定不能發備份文於版上
: 也沒有被版友視為是廢文因為我抓的是葉配
: TYCC 版主也為我的文章打上驚嘆號了
: 沒有來信給予備份文警告以為可以繼續進行協助
我將文鎖住是因為,版主已在審查
且因有版友來信提供相關證明,故檢舉文章尚未進行版規處置
而即使業配文濃厚的文章,版主在執行職務時必須要證據確鑿才可執行
這也是版友覺得最近美保版上業配濃厚的原故
事實上也是我年底於工作上較為忙碌,故較少時間詳盡找證據
這是我個人於職務上的疏失,要跟版友們道歉。
: TrJean 版主信中認為沒有尊重兩位版主也干擾版上
: 甚至已認定這是亂版行為若再犯予以水桶處理
: 在此我深感抱歉,對不起我不應該擅作主張抓業配
因為我不清楚信件內容,所以我說我知道的部分
我認為Trjean說的不尊重,應非單指抓業配
我認為的點是:
1.未先知會版主即應徵版主 (如上述,我只有收到應徵小版主,且已給予適當的回應)
2.我在違規文先標記[紅明顯]
ice版友於下面質疑我為何不桶
我回覆 我不在家怎麼桶
ice版友回覆 讓我上任就可以幫你
以上皆告知Trjean版主
我了解ice版友非常熱心,我與他也有信件往來
且ice版友在版上的文我也有m起來(預計將收於整理後的精華區)
但以上的2點,因為我有跟ice版友私下提過我的工作狀況
而這樣的回覆我個人有一點不被受尊重的感覺
: 請問業配10/5號發的文存活版上2~3個月之久
: 您怎麼沒有發現? 而且也沒有注意到版友推文反
我知道舊文許多違規文
大致上我在還沒上任前的文章可以睜一隻眼閉一隻眼
唯獨葉佩文,要是被我看到也是將其永久水桶+劣文
: 您當初剛上任後一個月有版友反應版主消失了
: 消失的這兩個禮拜,請問有到站務中心請假嗎?
補請假 這部分後續由Trjean說明。
: 現在因為考試請假一個月之久
: 請問有到站務中心請假嗎? 從站務中心看依舊沒有
: 我不知道 TrJean 版主為何不按照程序請假?
請假一個月這是我與您信件內容提到的;
但我沒想到這會是您質疑版主適任原因之一
組務請假規範提到:各板板主七日無法上站處理板務
1.Trjean都有上站,並與我討論版務;只是處理由我這邊執行。
故不需要與組務申請請假
2.這段時間Trjean版主負責編修版規,也都有提供編修的檔案給我參考
故我認為Trjean並非無執行版務,而只是我倆分工合作,各盡其職
所以我於原文推文內提到,我不認為Trjean不適任
這不是官官相護;而是明明Trjean有在進行版務,但只是較少露臉而被誤會
: 自從2015年3月開始有版友討論提高發文門檻
: TrJean 版主於9月8日上任
: 1TYCC 版主於10月22日上任
發文門檻先前Trjean已告知,沒有提高的打算(希望勿防小人而防到君子)
而我個人是認同且尊重Trjean的看法
您貼的兩篇文章,推文內也有我的身影;這部分我也在衡量,並非視而不見
: 版規未更新、精華區未整、業配橫行、伸手牌鬧版
1.版規未更新:我曾經想過在Trjean編修版規時,是否要先訂一個臨時版規
但想到版規公告後需有一段適應期,為了避免版友的麻煩,故決定等版規修好在一起發
2.精華區未整:我覺得舊分類分得較散,故在組織精華區新架構
但版主不是只有一個人我說了算,架構部分需要跟Trjean討論後再實行
3.業配橫行:顯性的業配都有處理掉;隱性的業配需要證據。
版友有提供疑似的ID;且我跟Trjean都有自己的觀察名單。
如果版友很厲害可以抓,非常歡迎站內信告知。
4.伸手牌鬧版:事實上目前的版規僅提到文章過短,並無明確列禁止伸手文
而我沒處理掉有一丁點誠意的伸手文,除了版規規範外,另一方面是精華區未修編
-----對ice發文的內容回應到這-----
版友的疑問:
1.版主有權利不讓特定人參選或當選嗎?
板主有權力可以申請新的板主
2.三位版主
與Trjean討論後,組務當初徵選即說預計徵2位版主
而過渡期至敝人於年底忙完、Trjean考試完就結束;故暫不需新增至三位版主
3.為何佔著茅坑不拉屎?
事實上一直都有在拉屎,只是拉得快跟慢,但總括有拉
4.知道很忙為何要當版主?
我要是知道職務會調動、被公司壓榨、加班沒加班費跟換休;根本不會參選
當初應徵是考量可利用下班時間管理,但計畫趕不上變化
而Trjean的考試也不是早就知道的固定規劃
我與Trjean生活上的變化,並非長期性;而只是暫時的,所以我還真沒想過需要卸任
5.Trjean請假一個月不需向組務申請嗎?
回覆於ice文章內
6.請假不用向版友說明嗎?
因非組務規範之請假,故無發公告文
我也有想過版主要開一個置底文拉D賽嗎?;可是這不是版主的個版阿!!!!!
這裡是美容保養版,就應該是要跟版旨相符的
如果版友認為有其必要,可以考慮設立
7.信件回覆
回覆於ice文章內;而我不清楚的內容暫不回應
8.是不是忘記參選的政見與初衷?
我跟Trjean的初衷始終於是,希望美保版可以越來越好。
政見部分其實一直都有同步在進行
包含更新版規、我跟Trjean在討論發文規範、是不是要增加文章類別(閒聊)、
什麼樣的徵文題目可以較多迴響又有收於精華區參考的價值、錯版的判定標準、
版主執行版務的SOP、利於版主備份違規與規範、版旨定義...想得到的都有
這些版主也沒啥利益跟權利可言,就是一個為民服務的出發點為概念
-----版友回覆到這;如推文有需補充再填上-----
最後,讓版友覺得最近版上亂糟糟,確實是我的失職而非Trjean的問題
造成版友不適與不悅,TYCC在此向喜愛美保版的各位說 對不起
當然以上的說明與回覆,不可能讓所有人都滿意
而版主群虛心接受版友指教,唯一的共同點就是,希望美保版更好
如我當初的應徵文,我自認自己可能不會是一個好的版主
版友的訴求版主群也致力努力執行,期許美保版能變得更有系統化與舒適
經過這件事,我會思考自己「適任」的問題
但我喜歡美保版的心不會改變;即使某天卸任也依舊是常駐版友之一
排版較亂,請見諒
晚安各位
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BY BeautySalon TYCC
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版友好,夜深了可能回覆得比較零散
此篇針對信件內容部分尚待我去了解與釐清
後續了解後會再此篇給予回覆
我就針對我知道的部分做回應;如版友有問題請以推文或信件詢問。
再次申明,版主很歡迎版友協助共同揪業配
但版旨為美容保養為主,會比較希望是以站內信的方式通知
當然版規沒有寫,目前也沒有進行任何處置
-------------------------------
※ 引述《icebergfox (哈庫拉瑪塔塔)》之銘言:
: 我要應徵版主前一天有先來信給兩位版主說明
: TYCC 版主表示支持也會與 TrJean 版主討論
我這邊收到的信件內容,是應徵「小版主」
而我知道ice版友要選版主是看版上的應徵文才知道
小版主我非常歡迎應徵,可是我有在信件內指出
我希望可以等我與Trjean開會後,確定架構後再邀請ice版友擔任
(希望有系統化的編修精華區)
: 然而與 TYCC 版主站內信時得知
: TrJean 版主請假一個月所以無瑕管理版務
我並無提到Trjean無暇管理版務。
事實上Trjean雖忙於準備考試,但一直都有在與我討論版務及版規修定
: 版規沒有規定不能發備份文於版上
: 也沒有被版友視為是廢文因為我抓的是葉配
: TYCC 版主也為我的文章打上驚嘆號了
: 沒有來信給予備份文警告以為可以繼續進行協助
我將文鎖住是因為,版主已在審查
且因有版友來信提供相關證明,故檢舉文章尚未進行版規處置
而即使業配文濃厚的文章,版主在執行職務時必須要證據確鑿才可執行
這也是版友覺得最近美保版上業配濃厚的原故
事實上也是我年底於工作上較為忙碌,故較少時間詳盡找證據
這是我個人於職務上的疏失,要跟版友們道歉。
: TrJean 版主信中認為沒有尊重兩位版主也干擾版上
: 甚至已認定這是亂版行為若再犯予以水桶處理
: 在此我深感抱歉,對不起我不應該擅作主張抓業配
因為我不清楚信件內容,所以我說我知道的部分
我認為Trjean說的不尊重,應非單指抓業配
我認為的點是:
1.未先知會版主即應徵版主 (如上述,我只有收到應徵小版主,且已給予適當的回應)
2.我在違規文先標記[紅明顯]
ice版友於下面質疑我為何不桶
我回覆 我不在家怎麼桶
ice版友回覆 讓我上任就可以幫你
以上皆告知Trjean版主
我了解ice版友非常熱心,我與他也有信件往來
且ice版友在版上的文我也有m起來(預計將收於整理後的精華區)
但以上的2點,因為我有跟ice版友私下提過我的工作狀況
而這樣的回覆我個人有一點不被受尊重的感覺
: 請問業配10/5號發的文存活版上2~3個月之久
: 您怎麼沒有發現? 而且也沒有注意到版友推文反
我知道舊文許多違規文
大致上我在還沒上任前的文章可以睜一隻眼閉一隻眼
唯獨葉佩文,要是被我看到也是將其永久水桶+劣文
: 您當初剛上任後一個月有版友反應版主消失了
: 消失的這兩個禮拜,請問有到站務中心請假嗎?
補請假 這部分後續由Trjean說明。
: 現在因為考試請假一個月之久
: 請問有到站務中心請假嗎? 從站務中心看依舊沒有
: 我不知道 TrJean 版主為何不按照程序請假?
請假一個月這是我與您信件內容提到的;
但我沒想到這會是您質疑版主適任原因之一
組務請假規範提到:各板板主七日無法上站處理板務
1.Trjean都有上站,並與我討論版務;只是處理由我這邊執行。
故不需要與組務申請請假
2.這段時間Trjean版主負責編修版規,也都有提供編修的檔案給我參考
故我認為Trjean並非無執行版務,而只是我倆分工合作,各盡其職
所以我於原文推文內提到,我不認為Trjean不適任
這不是官官相護;而是明明Trjean有在進行版務,但只是較少露臉而被誤會
: 自從2015年3月開始有版友討論提高發文門檻
: TrJean 版主於9月8日上任
: 1TYCC 版主於10月22日上任
發文門檻先前Trjean已告知,沒有提高的打算(希望勿防小人而防到君子)
而我個人是認同且尊重Trjean的看法
您貼的兩篇文章,推文內也有我的身影;這部分我也在衡量,並非視而不見
: 版規未更新、精華區未整、業配橫行、伸手牌鬧版
1.版規未更新:我曾經想過在Trjean編修版規時,是否要先訂一個臨時版規
但想到版規公告後需有一段適應期,為了避免版友的麻煩,故決定等版規修好在一起發
2.精華區未整:我覺得舊分類分得較散,故在組織精華區新架構
但版主不是只有一個人我說了算,架構部分需要跟Trjean討論後再實行
3.業配橫行:顯性的業配都有處理掉;隱性的業配需要證據。
版友有提供疑似的ID;且我跟Trjean都有自己的觀察名單。
如果版友很厲害可以抓,非常歡迎站內信告知。
4.伸手牌鬧版:事實上目前的版規僅提到文章過短,並無明確列禁止伸手文
而我沒處理掉有一丁點誠意的伸手文,除了版規規範外,另一方面是精華區未修編
-----對ice發文的內容回應到這-----
版友的疑問:
1.版主有權利不讓特定人參選或當選嗎?
板主有權力可以申請新的板主
2.三位版主
與Trjean討論後,組務當初徵選即說預計徵2位版主
而過渡期至敝人於年底忙完、Trjean考試完就結束;故暫不需新增至三位版主
3.為何佔著茅坑不拉屎?
事實上一直都有在拉屎,只是拉得快跟慢,但總括有拉
4.知道很忙為何要當版主?
我要是知道職務會調動、被公司壓榨、加班沒加班費跟換休;根本不會參選
當初應徵是考量可利用下班時間管理,但計畫趕不上變化
而Trjean的考試也不是早就知道的固定規劃
我與Trjean生活上的變化,並非長期性;而只是暫時的,所以我還真沒想過需要卸任
5.Trjean請假一個月不需向組務申請嗎?
回覆於ice文章內
6.請假不用向版友說明嗎?
因非組務規範之請假,故無發公告文
我也有想過版主要開一個置底文拉D賽嗎?;可是這不是版主的個版阿!!!!!
這裡是美容保養版,就應該是要跟版旨相符的
如果版友認為有其必要,可以考慮設立
7.信件回覆
回覆於ice文章內;而我不清楚的內容暫不回應
8.是不是忘記參選的政見與初衷?
我跟Trjean的初衷始終於是,希望美保版可以越來越好。
政見部分其實一直都有同步在進行
包含更新版規、我跟Trjean在討論發文規範、是不是要增加文章類別(閒聊)、
什麼樣的徵文題目可以較多迴響又有收於精華區參考的價值、錯版的判定標準、
版主執行版務的SOP、利於版主備份違規與規範、版旨定義...想得到的都有
這些版主也沒啥利益跟權利可言,就是一個為民服務的出發點為概念
-----版友回覆到這;如推文有需補充再填上-----
最後,讓版友覺得最近版上亂糟糟,確實是我的失職而非Trjean的問題
造成版友不適與不悅,TYCC在此向喜愛美保版的各位說 對不起
當然以上的說明與回覆,不可能讓所有人都滿意
而版主群虛心接受版友指教,唯一的共同點就是,希望美保版更好
如我當初的應徵文,我自認自己可能不會是一個好的版主
版友的訴求版主群也致力努力執行,期許美保版能變得更有系統化與舒適
經過這件事,我會思考自己「適任」的問題
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