大家會再給綠藤生機機會嗎? - 保養
By Irma
at 2017-03-02T19:23
at 2017-03-02T19:23
Table of Contents
是否已讀取發文須知並詳閱版規(Y/N):
已爬文關鍵字:綠藤、綠藤生機
最近有朋友推薦綠藤生機的保養品,去看了官網完全被文宣吸引,主打環保、永續、幫助
第三世界小農,完全正中我這個環保小魔人的胃,價位也很能負擔。
但是爬了美保版的推文發現竟然有未幫工讀生加保勞健保的情事發生,令人質疑此行為不
僅違法,更與品牌理念背道而馳,說要幫助他國小農、花大錢買廣告、聘請代言人,卻省
小錢
剝削我國勞工,因此仍處於觀望狀態,寫信問了客服,得到以下答覆。
http://i.imgur.com/k9WGbM5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WQ3EtOG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PRjRWCi.jpg
個人認為知錯能改善莫大焉,但還是要實際去試用才知道適不適合、會不會過敏啦(・Д
・)ノ
想問問大家會再給品牌一次機會嗎?
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看完大家的推文有感
綠藤的回應一直拿疏失兩字搪塞確實不夠負責任,如s大說的,如果真的是疏失就代表公
司不夠重視此事;且一個月後才加保說是疏失實在牽強。而且勞健保真的是最基本最基本
最基本的事情。
畢竟大部分願意購買的人都是支持綠藤的理念,結果竟然發生這種與理念相違的事情,讓
人對產品品質及品牌形象存疑也是理所當然。
對於意外知曉此事的人,我只能對品牌說聲sorry,雖說這絕非我的本意,但消費者絕對
有知的權利。
最後針對推文仍願意給機會的版友們,個人是覺得無可厚非(親友團護航除外),像某樓說
的是買產品不是買人品,產品歸研發部門,人品瑕疵歸HR或領導者。萊雅事件發生後,仍
有民眾願意購買;頂新事件發生後,林鳳營特價購買的人也大有人在。(拜託不要戰我我
什麼都沒買><)
最後的最後,原po跪求大家用詞不要這麼激烈嗚嗚,以和為貴和氣生財><。
※ 編輯: miffe92000 (101.15.177.195), 03/02/2017 19:35:11
※ 編輯: miffe92000 (101.15.177.195), 03/02/2017 19:36:16
→ nawi: 不會126.160.50.2 03/02 19:41
→ livability: 不會36.234.127.147 03/02 19:46
→ livability: 發文是要幫他們澄清嗎?36.234.127.147 03/02 19:48
→ miffe92000: 澄清什麼?事情確實有發生啊並不是誤101.15.177.195 03/02 19:52
→ miffe92000: 會啊 101.15.177.195 03/02 19:52
→ litterboys: 不會啊哈哈哈 223.139.5.17 03/02 19:53
→ s085999449: 做過人事跟你說這不可能疏失,新人進 1.175.16.128 03/02 19:55
→ s085999449: 來當天就立刻辦好加保了,怎麼疏失?1.175.16.128 03/02 19:55
→ s085999449: 如果說太忙說人手不足,那就是他們不 1.175.16.128 03/02 19:55
→ s085999449: 夠重視此事。1.175.16.128 03/02 19:55
推 Veronica0802: 可惜還滿喜歡他們的東西的180.217.130.18 03/02 19:56
→ miffe92000: S大說的有理耶 待過的公司 除了某家101.15.177.195 03/02 19:59
→ miffe92000: 刻意逃漏稅的大公司 只能說真的是為了101.15.177.195 03/02 19:59
→ miffe92000: 省小錢 拿石頭重重砸了自己的腳101.15.177.195 03/02 19:59
→ nineuniverse: 連自己勞工都可以「疏失」 你覺得他111.255.85.70 03/02 20:11
→ nineuniverse: 其他地方會不會也「疏失」呢XD111.255.85.70 03/02 20:11
推 bsmile602: 這絕對不可能是疏失阿..用膝蓋想也知道 114.36.231.11 03/02 20:16
→ bsmile602: 只是隨便說說騙單純的人而言 這種說法114.36.231.11 03/02 20:16
→ bsmile602: 只會讓我覺得裝肖維114.36.231.11 03/02 20:16
→ miffe92000: 了解!我真是意志薄弱的消費者101.15.177.195 03/02 20:23
→ tpx20: 若原po不去問,廠商什麼時候才要公開說明 180.217.141.97 03/02 20:34
→ asagao: 哪一間公司會坦承是故意的 都嘛用疏失草 61.231.184.42 03/02 20:38
→ asagao: 草了事 法人違法亂紀的事通常絕非偶然61.231.184.42 03/02 20:39
推 error123: 不會,台灣環境就這麼小,還鄉民出身36.229.209.218 03/02 20:52
→ error123: 勞保這麼簡單都會略過,其他呢?36.229.209.218 03/02 20:52
→ error123: 果然是台大財金系畢業,很會算。36.229.209.218 03/02 20:53
→ error123: 主打芽菜,到現在也不注重自家農產了36.229.209.218 03/02 20:53
→ error123: 覺得蠻失望。 36.229.209.218 03/02 20:54
※ 編輯: miffe92000 (101.15.177.195), 03/02/2017 21:05:01 → good2020: 以前我家賣便當常工讀生來半天烙跑,剛 39.10.0.110 03/02 21:02
→ good2020: 加又退真正煩,我媽都要跑勞工局,現在 39.10.0.110 03/02 21:02
→ good2020: 有網路加退真的方便太多了...我比較在意 39.10.0.110 03/02 21:02
→ good2020: 到底跟永豐餘有沒有關係?好像是子公司 39.10.0.110 03/02 21:03
→ good2020: 又好像不是?(有興趣可以收尋外傭vs永 39.10.0.110 03/02 21:03
→ good2020: 豐餘新聞) 39.10.0.110 03/02 21:03
推 BECW: 你信嗎?反正我是不信223.139.173.166 03/02 21:26
推 sharik: 不會給他機會,這種無良企業做的東西我不 111.243.56.204 03/02 21:39
→ sharik: 敢用臉上 111.243.56.204 03/02 21:39
→ CYCOUI: 意外得知這個消息 36.229.192.2 03/02 21:39
→ sharik: 為什麼感覺這篇文章完全把綠藤往死裡打 X 111.243.56.204 03/02 21:40
→ sharik: D 111.243.56.204 03/02 21:40
推 slugshino: 推文蠻偽善的,你知道所有歐美廠刷具 36.225.94.239 03/02 21:43
→ slugshino: 都是剝奪東南亞童工做出來的嗎? 36.225.94.239 03/02 21:44
推 myislet: 不會114.136.34.114 03/02 22:30
推 error123: 來了來了,最愛拿別的東西救援。 36.229.209.218 03/02 22:43
推 chu730: 不會 111.80.89.179 03/02 22:45
推 Tsukushi: 只覺得這"疏失"說法有點牽強啦... 1.162.136.230 03/02 22:49
→ s085999449: 拿別人的錯來說,會消除綠藤的錯嗎? 1.175.32.97 03/02 22:50
→ s085999449: 我們管不了歐美,還可以治治自家企業 1.175.32.97 03/02 22:50
→ s085999449: 我們每個人每天都吃飽飽,非洲一堆沒 1.175.32.97 03/02 22:51
→ s085999449: 飯吃,我們可以繼續吃飽嗎?不行嗎? 1.175.32.97 03/02 22:51
→ s085999449: 鄉愿。1.175.32.97 03/02 22:51
推 dior5566: 拒買36.227.181.33 03/02 22:54
推 kimchi0207: 會啊,反正我買的是產品不是人品115.82.49.153 03/02 23:00
推 selsos: 列為拒絕往來戶! 39.9.198.28 03/02 23:21
推 crazylovewow: 會,還是會給機會59.115.116.46 03/02 23:27
→ wed33: 勞健保這是報到當天都要主動幫保的吧!這1.34.238.36 03/02 23:31
→ wed33: 樣對他們印象大打折扣 1.34.238.36 03/02 23:31
推 jenny0112: 看這篇才知道有這件事!是我的蜜糖說…101.138.135.159 03/02 23:45
→ jenny0112: 又要另尋蜜糖了101.138.135.159 03/02 23:45
推 cutedora: 意外知道這個消息,本來有在觀望這個品1.160.30.199 03/02 23:57
→ cutedora: 牌,如果強打幫助小農結果卻這樣,反而 1.160.30.199 03/02 23:57
→ cutedora: 會更反感耶! 1.160.30.199 03/02 23:57
推 alisawang: 他們家洗面乳好用223.141.150.199 03/03 00:10
推 yamoi99: 看得見他們的誠意 42.73.152.121 03/03 00:45
→ yamoi99: 覺得會給一次機會耶 42.73.152.121 03/03 00:45
→ yamoi99: 還是我太容易被說服xD 42.73.152.121 03/03 00:46
推 diangdiang: 會給 願意承擔是好事 有多少公司低報 49.218.48.5 03/03 01:29
→ diangdiang: 勞健保 寧願被開罰罰鍰 如果改善有什 49.218.48.5 03/03 01:29
→ diangdiang: 麼理由追著不放49.218.48.5 03/03 01:29
→ jimyan36: 公司理念跟行動不符180.217.236.67 03/03 01:33
推 almondchoco: 就說一套做一套吧 打文青形象卻這樣111.250.207.19 03/03 01:53
→ almondchoco: 絕對不會支持111.250.207.19 03/03 01:53
→ Beanoodle: 沒保勞保的疏失,騙小孩子嗎? 1.173.42.6 03/03 02:27
推 crane: 原本朋友狂推很生火,看完這篇很慶幸還沒下118.171.10.79 03/03 03:29
→ crane: 勞保少一天叫失誤,少一個月叫蓄意118.171.10.79 03/03 03:30
→ crane: 更何況這應當是一天都不能少的事 118.171.10.79 03/03 03:31
推 ytwok: 不會,再見114.44.195.159 03/03 03:33
推 cutedora: 同意c大,爬文才發現是一個月後才投保,1.160.30.199 03/03 03:44
→ cutedora: 這根本不能稱為疏失了,既然要拿幫忙小1.160.30.199 03/03 03:44
→ cutedora: 農當正面形象宣傳,卻犯這種低級錯誤更 1.160.30.199 03/03 03:44
→ cutedora: 偽善吧,而不是大家要求他們就被批偽善 1.160.30.199 03/03 03:44 推 jojomaan: 只能說行事作風是不會改變的111.250.185.186 03/03 05:27
→ jojomaan: 會偷料的廠商 不會只偷一個地方111.250.185.186 03/03 05:27
推 qookennylin: 去看了綠藤的fb,對於環保,關於公123.110.176.71 03/03 06:01
→ qookennylin: 平交易說得頭頭是道,想不到對員工連 123.110.176.71 03/03 06:01
→ qookennylin: 最基本的法條都沒有遵守,這才是真123.110.176.71 03/03 06:01
→ qookennylin: 正的偽善吧。123.110.176.71 03/03 06:01
推 aa8351489: 絕對不會 第一 本來就沒用他們東西 1.200.32.62 03/03 08:24
→ aa8351489: 第二 就像樓上大大們說的 會投機取巧1.200.32.62 03/03 08:24
→ aa8351489: 的人 不會只投機某一處1.200.32.62 03/03 08:24
推 pocketshape: 最偽善的就是綠藤吧,信件回覆內容101.9.82.225 03/03 08:31
推 pocketshape: 看起來超級刺眼。另外好奇所有歐美 101.9.82.225 03/03 08:31
推 pocketshape: 刷具廠都壓榨童工的說法哪裡找呢? 101.9.82.225 03/03 08:31
推 girafa: 完全不會! 61.227.155.57 03/03 09:02
推 davidtank: 會給機會,最近第一次跟他們買了洗髮117.19.149.211 03/03 09:12
→ davidtank: 精117.19.149.211 03/03 09:12
推 Doralice: 說疏失真的很牽強....覺得偽善49.214.130.100 03/03 09:22
推 kimuranene: 跑去爬文了 一堆公關推文 好好笑 36.226.212.26 03/03 09:22
→ kimuranene: 看了覺得會相信他們說法的根本廠廠Y 36.226.212.26 03/03 09:23
→ kimuranene: 推文真的非常假啊!!!! XDDDDDDD36.226.212.26 03/03 09:23
推 kaoru119: 不會,白痴也不會信疏失這種鬼話101.13.20.211 03/03 09:38
推 arhei: 完全不想在相信這間公司 連基本的員工保險123.51.220.186 03/03 09:52
→ arhei: 都沒保 然後一直說保障農友123.51.220.186 03/03 09:53
→ arhei: 讓人覺得很虛偽! 123.51.220.186 03/03 09:53
→ arhei: 而且說是疏失這種鬼話 我完全無法信服! 123.51.220.186 03/03 09:54
推 lilychichi: 不會 苛刻員工的公司 不會有二次機會220.128.124.130 03/03 10:15
→ lilychichi: 而且嚴格說來沒給員工勞健保是違法吧220.128.124.130 03/03 10:16
推 tchotchke: 買了無乳液實驗組+4罐洗髮精 不會再給114.136.212.124 03/03 11:06
→ tchotchke: 機會 而且後悔買這麼多114.136.212.124 03/03 11:06
推 ange: 很好奇上面推文是有多少人永遠不會犯錯118.163.26.49 03/03 11:09
→ ange: 只要別人犯錯就是置對方死地118.163.26.49 03/03 11:10
推 lordin56: 勞健保不給這種違法的公司真的很惡劣140.119.121.6 03/03 11:27
→ yehcathy: 真要檢舉應該檢舉不完~他們只是比較倒114.39.213.90 03/03 11:28
→ yehcathy: 楣,被投訴到媒體,我不相信只有他們有114.39.213.90 03/03 11:28
→ yehcathy: 問題~以上114.39.213.90 03/03 11:28
推 kaoru119: 說不會給機會不只是因為沒給勞健保,而101.13.20.211 03/03 11:31
→ kaoru119: 是你既然會這樣違法,那你主張的那些環 101.13.20.211 03/03 11:31
→ kaoru119: 保、公平交易,可信度是不是也要打折扣 101.13.20.211 03/03 11:32
→ kaoru119: ? 101.13.20.211 03/03 11:32
→ wi22900: 不會180.217.163.211 03/03 11:34
推 kaoru119: 我因為支持綠藤的理念而願意使用它的產101.13.20.211 03/03 11:34
→ kaoru119: 品,可是現在知道它連勞基法都沒遵守,101.13.20.211 03/03 11:34
→ kaoru119: 要怎麼相信它說它是支持小農的公平交易101.13.20.211 03/03 11:34
→ kaoru119: ? 101.13.20.211 03/03 11:34
推 alicekoki: 不會 光花大錢買廣告就覺得產品不見得 61.57.236.2 03/03 11:44
→ alicekoki: 對得起理念 61.57.236.2 03/03 11:44
推 joosephsieh: 連承認錯誤都不敢 還給什麼機會 疏失180.204.243.226 03/03 11:44
→ joosephsieh: ? 科科180.204.243.226 03/03 11:44
推 pocketshape: 爬文後就懂了些甚麼... ?XD118.166.248.133 03/03 11:53
推 yehcathy: 好奇你們工作的地方都有照勞基法嗎 114.39.213.90 03/03 12:04
→ s085999449: 一再有人拿別人過錯來護航,我也是廠 1.175.19.200 03/03 12:15
→ s085999449: 廠了XD 看起來只是更諷刺,臺灣違法才 1.175.19.200 03/03 12:15
→ s085999449: 合理、是常態囉?永采殷鑑不遠,各位 1.175.19.200 03/03 12:15
→ s085999449: 。 1.175.19.200 03/03 12:15
推 pipuukimo: 不會買...這價格並不是非它不可202.89.121.20 03/03 12:15
推 ceciliayan: 不會,連員工基本保障都沒做,那他宣223.137.125.177 03/03 12:45
→ ceciliayan: 揚的那些理念能做到的有幾成令人存疑223.137.125.177 03/03 12:45
推 sssssunny: 不會,因為綠藤本身是賣理念,對自己國114.136.251.115 03/03 13:04
→ sssssunny: 人都做不到,跟我說其他更崇高的東西我114.136.251.115 03/03 13:04
→ sssssunny: 個人是不信啦。而且產品百百種,也不是114.136.251.115 03/03 13:04
→ sssssunny: 只有他家的東西最棒棒。114.136.251.115 03/03 13:04
推 lonelystar06: 不好該守法的事為什麼要拿別國來比? 122.121.248.82 03/03 13:05
→ lonelystar06: 那國外好的做法台灣怎麼不拿來學?122.121.248.82 03/03 13:05
→ lonelystar06: 喔對了 我忘了歐美責任制來到台灣完122.121.248.82 03/03 13:05
→ lonelystar06: 全變調XD122.121.248.82 03/03 13:05
推 lonelystar06: 要寬容也不要秀下限好嗎?這是平庸122.121.248.82 03/03 13:08
→ lonelystar06: 之惡122.121.248.82 03/03 13:08
推 Tsukushi: 畢竟不少人支持這品牌是認同他宣稱的理1.162.136.230 03/03 13:17
→ Tsukushi: 念 結果連自己員工本該有的保障都沒做好 1.162.136.230 03/03 13:17
→ Tsukushi: 要怎麼信任這牌所說的什麼公平交易支持 1.162.136.230 03/03 13:17
→ Tsukushi: 小農 1.162.136.230 03/03 13:17
推 Tsukushi: 不太懂一直有推文扯別家在遵守勞基法方 1.162.136.230 03/03 13:20
→ Tsukushi: 面這點也做很差是有什麼幫助1.162.136.230 03/03 13:20
推 tpx20: 同創辦人有推文澄清該牌和永豐餘沒關係,在180.217.141.97 03/03 13:38
推 tpx20: 員工勞健保問題上卻變成「ptt板上廠商身份180.217.141.97 03/03 13:38
推 tpx20: 無法發言」 哈180.217.141.97 03/03 13:38
推 antioxidant: 給員工低薪的老闆,就算理念講得多深 39.12.162.212 03/03 13:43
→ antioxidant: 入人心,都只覺得假掰.... 39.12.162.212 03/03 13:43
→ lilychichi: 不懂為什麼要扯別間公司怎樣...220.128.124.130 03/03 14:24
推 minaminojill: 不會,與理念完全衝突 101.11.3.235 03/03 14:26
→ lilychichi: 沒幫勞工保勞健保是犯法不是犯錯220.128.124.130 03/03 14:26
→ minaminojill: 與他們的理念 101.11.3.235 03/03 14:26
→ pocketshape: 這篇一直陸續出現莫名的推文,其實蠻 101.9.82.225 03/03 14:30
→ pocketshape: 好笑的,這樣下去真的只是往死裡打 101.9.82.225 03/03 14:30
→ pocketshape: 啊,廠廠。 101.9.82.225 03/03 14:30
推 kimuranene: 就很好笑的洗推文 (看戲)223.137.128.36 03/03 14:38
推 diangdiang: 第一個月沒保健保變成給員工低薪..... 49.218.48.5 03/03 14:47
→ diangdiang: 好可怕 49.218.48.5 03/03 14:50
推 smileyo0226: 請問是哪一篇有寫到勞健保? 117.19.49.66 03/03 14:56
推 may950511: 勞權這件事只有底線踩不夠死的問題,180.204.134.72 03/03 14:56
→ may950511: 不懂在那邊嫌推文太苛刻的人是什麼心態180.204.134.72 03/03 14:56
推 kitten631: 不會 我覺得無法善待勞工的公司不可能218.161.19.19 03/03 14:57
→ kitten631: 有什麼好的理念218.161.19.19 03/03 14:57
→ kitten631: 我上班的地方就是遵守勞基法喔某些護航218.161.19.19 03/03 14:58
→ kitten631: 推文會不會太好笑XD 218.161.19.19 03/03 14:58
推 taied: 我不會用106.105.181.170 03/03 15:07
→ aoisei: 扯東南亞童工簡直莫名其妙,如果是公關推`223.138.198.101 03/03 15:07
→ aoisei: 的把這家公司往死裡打,連勞基法都無法遵`223.138.198.101 03/03 15:08
→ aoisei: 守的公司才是最偽善的,別洗推文了好嗎223.138.198.101 03/03 15:10
→ yehcathy: 那可能是我上班的地方沒有遵照勞基法,27.52.166.195 03/03 15:21
→ yehcathy: 所以我不覺得是大事,我沒用過他們的東 27.52.166.195 03/03 15:21
→ yehcathy: 西,只是覺得沒必要往死裏打 27.52.166.195 03/03 15:21
推 kaoru119: 這種概念是否就像因為自己_性堅強認為 101.13.20.211 03/03 15:40
→ kaoru119: 天天加班不給加班費也不給補休沒什麼,101.13.20.211 03/03 15:40
→ kaoru119: 不是大事,所以別人不能接受、想爭取,101.13.20.211 03/03 15:40
→ kaoru119: 就是愛吵愛鬧一樣?101.13.20.211 03/03 15:40
推 taied: 建議Y大趕快檢舉自己公司違法106.105.181.170 03/03 15:47
推 fast1121: 我也覺得很多公司沒照勞基法,但是通常27.246.171.205 03/03 15:49
→ fast1121: 違紀的公司不會大肆宣揚崇高的理念當成27.246.171.205 03/03 15:49
→ fast1121: 賣點27.246.171.205 03/03 15:49
推 kimuranene: 好好笑 公司不守法也可以拿來反諷...36.226.212.26 03/03 15:51
推 antioxidant: To diang : 我的意思是給員工低薪的 39.12.162.212 03/03 15:57
→ antioxidant: 都不會相信了,何況是未保勞健保的 39.12.162.212 03/03 15:57
→ antioxidant: ~ 靠剝削員工才能獲利的企業,最好39.12.162.212 03/03 15:57
→ antioxidant: 倒一倒不要危害社會...員工長期低薪39.12.162.212 03/03 15:57
→ antioxidant: 就是獲利都進老闆口袋啦,這種人談崇39.12.162.212 03/03 15:57
→ antioxidant: 高理念不覺得突兀嗎 39.12.162.212 03/03 15:57
推 yehcathy: 謝謝,但工作很難找...不好意思讓大家 114.39.213.90 03/03 16:00
→ yehcathy: 看笑話 114.39.213.90 03/03 16:00
推 leoniz: 剝削勞工還能護航的才好笑吧,這都要省誰 111.255.46.68 03/03 16:14
→ leoniz: 知道理念是否只是故事行銷 111.255.46.68 03/03 16:14
推 loveazuresky: 關於parabens防腐劑,歡迎有興趣的板1.172.124.194 03/03 16:47
→ loveazuresky: 友 google一下 蔡昌霖醫師的文章1.172.124.194 03/03 16:48
→ loveazuresky: 另外 好奇推文中拿歐美刷具用童工的1.172.124.194 03/03 16:50
→ loveazuresky: 例子 是想說明什麼(還是來救援?) 1.172.124.194 03/03 16:51
→ m472: 綠藤不就賣理念?結果實際做的根本跟最大賣140.117.186.62 03/03 16:57
→ m472: 點背道而馳啊哈哈 哪個公司會忘記保勞健保?140.117.186.62 03/03 16:57
→ m472: 勞健保本來就是基本保障,自己不在乎還要覺140.117.186.62 03/03 16:57
→ m472: 得別人在意這個太過頭== 140.117.186.62 03/03 16:57
→ vickychang: 推s大 101.13.160.64 03/03 17:09
推 jaries: 推文真的好多笑話,自己公司不守法還好意 198.176.54.96 03/03 17:44
→ jaries: 思出來大放厥詞,恥度也太高 198.176.54.96 03/03 17:44 → jaries: 自己奴還不准別人反抗的概念198.176.54.96 03/03 17:45
推 licstar: 不會,這種事根本不可能會不小心忘記, 36.235.80.156 03/03 17:56
→ licstar: 太扯! 36.235.80.156 03/03 17:56
推 qi3qi3: 原來還有這件事!49.218.36.161 03/03 18:01
推 dser: 買過幾項產品覺得普 未來不會再考慮其他產品36.225.235.152 03/03 18:12
→ dser: 有未幫員工勞健保的情況 就更難支持36.225.235.152 03/03 18:12
推 bsmile602: 有些真的護航到一個匪夷所思的境界欸1.164.213.105 03/03 18:18
→ bsmile602: 我都要覺得是不是有親友團還是工讀生 1.164.213.105 03/03 18:18
→ bsmile602: 在推了 1.164.213.105 03/03 18:18
推 kitten631: 就只是有關注這些文章的人不用這家產品218.161.19.19 03/03 19:29
→ kitten631: 而已算哪門子往死裡打~ptt才沒那麼大218.161.19.19 03/03 19:29
→ kitten631: 眾。倒是拼命護航讓這篇推文數討論度越218.161.19.19 03/03 19:29
→ kitten631: 來越高才是自尋死路吧XD218.161.19.19 03/03 19:29
推 dearpiggy: 原po沒提還真不曉得有這件事XD223.139.182.14 03/03 20:03
推 tsubame: 絕對不會,做人都這樣了,做產品會怎樣也59.126.248.50 03/03 20:42
→ tsubame: 是很容易想像 59.126.248.50 03/03 20:42
推 elims: 洗面乳真的很好用。沒幫新人保勞保一定是118.165.196.70 03/03 20:46
→ elims: 有取巧心態,勞保是最最基本的,任用流程一118.165.196.70 03/03 20:46
→ elims: 定都有加保。若是公立學校代課,只來半天也 118.165.196.70 03/03 20:46
→ elims: 得保。118.165.196.70 03/03 20:46
推 YuchunPark: 簡單來說他們沒在怕勞檢114.137.100.235 03/03 21:06
→ slugshino: 綠藤跟工讀的勞雇問題我不知處理結果 1.163.30.86 03/03 21:16
→ slugshino: 但美保產業更邪惡的事情多得很 1.163.30.86 03/03 21:18
→ slugshino: 一邊搶購爆款口紅 藍點松鼠毛 一邊說這 1.163.30.86 03/03 21:18
→ slugshino: 說那,本身就是一件蠻偽善的事情 1.163.30.86 03/03 21:18
推 decvra: 之前看到綠藤的介紹超想買的,後來知道綠111.255.93.133 03/03 22:00
→ decvra: 藤的前身就是乖媽,直接打消念頭啦!111.255.93.133 03/03 22:00
※ 編輯: miffe92000 (101.15.177.195), 03/03/2017 22:31:29 → s085999449: 那一桿子打翻一船人是什麼?偽聖? 1.175.9.170 03/03 22:49
→ s085999449: 誰跟你搶購東搶購西了XD 1.175.9.170 03/03 22:49
→ s085999449: 討論違反勞基法可以扯到那,也是醉了 1.175.9.170 03/03 22:51
推 s085999449: 講到洗面乳推一下水平衡~最近用的@@ 1.175.9.170 03/03 22:53
→ s085999449: 超微泡水感洗面乳-水感保溼 ←保濕而 1.175.9.170 03/03 22:53
推 god231: 之前看到的新聞報導上面說乖媽現在是三家 114.34.210.140 03/03 22:54
→ god231: 公司創辦人,板上常被推的童顏有機確定是 114.34.210.140 03/03 22:54
→ god231: ,網站也有她,我還因為乖媽的綠色光合fb 114.34.210.140 03/03 22:54
→ god231: 推薦才認識童顏,綠藤也是嗎??? 114.34.210.140 03/03 22:54
→ s085999449: 且不滑,泡泡好沖洗,洗完舒服~~~ 1.175.9.170 03/03 22:54
→ god231: 然後我還真不知道刷具是童工做的,看推文 114.34.210.140 03/03 22:54
→ god231: 長知識~ 114.34.210.140 03/03 22:54
→ miffe92000: 原po推s大霸氣 101.15.177.195 03/03 23:00
推 ku329: 不知道來護航的工讀生有沒有保勞健保123.110.193.181 03/03 23:10
推 draving: 現在才知道這件事 疏忽=不重視 不想買了 113.37.105.126 03/03 23:25
推 fast1121: 看到這篇才知道+1223.136.177.238 03/04 00:02
→ kitten631: 就跟被抓到交通違規就跟警察呱呱叫說“ 218.161.19.19 03/04 00:06
→ kitten631: 隔壁那台也違規啊你怎麼不抓”一樣XD 218.161.19.19 03/04 00:06
推 lail: 綠藤跟乖媽沒關係吧,乖媽是綠色光合吧 223.141.160.69 03/04 00:31
推 a06w6y7: 理念寫這麼好聽結果連最基本的都沒做,要 24.80.19.180 03/04 01:50
→ a06w6y7: 怎麼相信 24.80.19.180 03/04 01:50
推 pocketshape: 這產業黑的很多沒錯啊,但推文中的 101.9.82.225 03/04 02:08
→ pocketshape: 報導是有關雲母原料,還是沒看到刷 101.9.82.225 03/04 02:08
→ pocketshape: 具相關,狄卡連結失效,我菜逼八也go 101.9.82.225 03/04 02:08
→ pocketshape: ogle不到。且怎麼認定說這說那的人就 101.9.82.225 03/04 02:08
→ pocketshape: 是搶購的那些人?每個人關心的議題廣 101.9.82.225 03/04 02:08
→ pocketshape: 度深度,都會因為自身環境,甚至時 101.9.82.225 03/04 02:08
→ pocketshape: 間安排有所不同,實在沒必要一桿子 101.9.82.225 03/04 02:08
→ pocketshape: 打翻一船人。這樣看來明顯違法的事 101.9.82.225 03/04 02:08
→ pocketshape: 實,大概也只能靠拉別人一同下水來 101.9.82.225 03/04 02:08
→ pocketshape: 做低級救援吧。 101.9.82.225 03/04 02:08
→ Doralice: 親戚是做小本生意的,前幾年就有聽聞有 115.82.164.9 03/04 06:44
→ Doralice: 報到時想辦法拖延入勞健保時程(欠資料 115.82.164.9 03/04 06:44
→ Doralice: 不給雇主),再留證據離職後提勒索的訟 115.82.164.9 03/04 06:44
→ Doralice: 棍出現.... 沒有一點背景身家的小雇主 115.82.164.9 03/04 06:44
→ Doralice: 誰敢「疏失」呀! 和永采一樣有背景的才 115.82.164.9 03/04 06:44
→ Doralice: 敢蓄意動手腳吧 115.82.164.9 03/04 06:44
推 error123: 爬文才發現綠藤跟乖媽有關係 36.229.131.43 03/04 07:55
→ error123: 綠藤是乖媽老公的牌子。 36.229.131.43 03/04 07:55
推 error123: 而且講"第四季工讀生",會只有一個? 36.229.131.43 03/04 07:58
推 loveazuresky: 大家也是在努力學習關心這些議題 1.172.124.194 03/04 09:04
→ loveazuresky: 想慎選自己的消費來幫助改變社會 1.172.124.194 03/04 09:05
→ loveazuresky: 推文中卻有人故意模糊焦點 扯別的 1.172.124.194 03/04 09:06
→ loveazuresky: 不相干的事情 把別人的關注 說成 1.172.124.194 03/04 09:06
→ loveazuresky: 偽善 真是可笑 1.172.124.194 03/04 09:06
推 yamago: 難 36.228.226.229 03/04 10:12
推 mrwooo: 只能說 會買的還是會買 你看看第三者跟數 36.225.193.187 03/04 10:40
→ mrwooo: 字還不是一堆人XD 36.225.193.187 03/04 10:40
推 qqhaze: 大公司都有專門的人事,這種理由你信? 36.232.124.170 03/04 13:26
推 nineuniverse: 不好意思啊 我沒用過刷具 111.255.90.202 03/04 16:03
→ nineuniverse: 要不要把用甚麼很偽善列個表啊 111.255.90.202 03/04 16:04
→ nineuniverse: 某些推文真得太扯了 111.255.90.202 03/04 16:05
→ nineuniverse: 我看不是版友往死裡打 111.255.90.202 03/04 16:05
→ nineuniverse: 是妳們自己往死裡坑吧 111.255.90.202 03/04 16:06
→ nineuniverse: 第一次看到這麼此地無銀三百兩的 111.255.90.202 03/04 16:06
→ nineuniverse: 自己把品牌理念捧得那麼高 111.255.90.202 03/04 16:07
→ nineuniverse: 連最基本的都做不到 111.255.90.202 03/04 16:08
→ nineuniverse: 扣掉理念 多的是可以取代綠藤的 111.255.90.202 03/04 16:08
→ nineuniverse: 就不要怪別人不當出錢的傻瓜 111.255.90.202 03/04 16:09
推 diangdiang: 看了綠藤在fb的聲明與補償 我覺得改111.255.185.183 03/04 16:30
→ diangdiang: 善方面已經很有誠意解決也不是說每一111.255.185.183 03/04 16:30
→ diangdiang: 個基本的都沒做到 要這麼疾言厲色對111.255.185.183 03/04 16:30
→ diangdiang: 待一個願意改善也承諾的公司我並不覺111.255.185.183 03/04 16:30
→ diangdiang: 得能更有什麼幫助啊 可以說我護航 但111.255.185.183 03/04 16:30
→ diangdiang: 我覺得事情已有解決 有批評改善還能進111.255.185.183 03/04 16:30
→ diangdiang: 步才是最好的111.255.185.183 03/04 16:30
推 diangdiang: 而且隨便說別人是護航的工讀生難道不111.255.185.183 03/04 16:35
→ diangdiang: 可恥 只要有不同看法就說護航可笑 ..111.255.185.183 03/04 16:35
推 joosephsieh: 所以綠藤承認他們是故意不保勞健保了 115.82.208.173 03/04 16:43
→ joosephsieh: 嗎 115.82.208.173 03/04 16:43
→ s085999449: 法律是最低道德標準,守住只是基本, 1.175.9.170 03/04 18:23
→ s085999449: 事後願意解決改善當然好,但本來可以 1.175.9.170 03/04 18:23
→ s085999449: 不必如此的。被人家繼續罵也就認栽吧 1.175.9.170 03/04 18:24
→ s085999449: 話說事發我都收回粉絲頁的讚了,他們 1.175.9.170 03/04 18:25
→ s085999449: 在粉絲頁發聲明…只是好像也沒有更好 1.175.9.170 03/04 18:25
→ s085999449: 的辦法了。至少我想不到~"~ 1.175.9.170 03/04 18:26
推 BIYZAC: 推上面推文,這是犯法不是犯錯 27.242.76.19 03/04 19:28
推 pdf300ppi: 說真的說不會的推文也不過是說他們不會 124.8.132.113 03/04 20:41
→ pdf300ppi: 再用也沒有要求別人不 哪裡往死裡打? 124.8.132.113 03/04 20:42
推 toke: 辣木油真的很好用,看完聲明願意繼續用 1.171.241.132 03/04 20:42
→ pdf300ppi: 反而是你想原諒想用就用阿 譴責不願意 124.8.132.113 03/04 20:43
→ pdf300ppi: 原諒的人是哪招?這才是會被砲的原因 124.8.132.113 03/04 20:44
推 antioxidant: 在台灣不會發生罰到倒或抵制到退出 39.12.162.212 03/04 21:41
→ antioxidant: 市場的事情,根本不需要為資方擔心.. 39.12.162.212 03/04 21:41
→ antioxidant: .. 39.12.162.212 03/04 21:41
噓 ch1473: 抵制180.177.159.219 03/04 22:55
推 patty0509: 拐賣就廣告不實大戶啊,還在自己fb討 59.115.221.100 03/04 23:13
→ patty0509: 拍說政府亂罰呵呵 59.115.221.100 03/04 23:13
→ patty0509: "乖媽" 59.115.221.100 03/04 23:13
→ god231: 樓上,綠藤已經發聲明不認識乖媽了 114.34.210.140 03/04 23:17
推 muzme: 還沒買過,但知道此事後會降低購買意願 117.19.179.107 03/04 23:17
→ god231: 乖媽是跟童顏有機有關 114.34.210.140 03/04 23:18
→ god231: 有興趣的網友可以去看綠藤fb,有最新聲明稿 114.34.210.140 03/04 23:19
推 qookennylin: 推這是犯法不是犯錯,連最低限度的法 123.110.176.71 03/05 00:03
→ qookennylin: 律都無法遵守,那種崇高的理念還是 123.110.176.71 03/05 00:03
→ qookennylin: 看看就好,you are what you buy 123.110.176.71 03/05 00:03
推 cancerchin: 不會買 114.137.44.159 03/05 11:30
推 jordonmi: 放心啦 過陣子大家就全忘光了 1.173.32.62 03/05 11:55
推 diy7822: 不會 1.170.206.133 03/05 17:07
推 setomoku: 特地去看了一下官方回應,覺得事因經過都 106.105.76.55 03/05 21:47
→ setomoku: 寫的滿清楚的,後續處理也很好,之前有因 106.105.76.55 03/05 21:47
→ setomoku: 拿過試用品後來購買商品,覺得其實比起絕 106.105.76.55 03/05 21:48
→ setomoku: 大多數台牌,這家算很有誠意的了 106.105.76.55 03/05 21:48
推 iamtherule: 聲明裡有詳細交代事情經過及補救的過 114.42.235.67 03/05 22:08
→ iamtherule: 程,也無任何將錯推給員工之言詞;產 114.42.235.67 03/05 22:08
→ iamtherule: 品好用,會繼續支持! 114.42.235.67 03/05 22:08
→ s085999449: 看他們聲明應該沒有人事部門,就誰負 1.175.9.170 03/05 22:54
→ s085999449: 責財務、誰負責人事這樣。但她負責的 1.175.9.170 03/05 22:55
→ s085999449: 她會不知道招了幾個人?一上午就可以 1.175.9.170 03/05 22:55
→ s085999449: 加保完成的作業…… 1.175.9.170 03/05 22:56
→ s085999449: 反正我是從此粉轉黑了。個人不再支持 1.175.9.170 03/05 22:57
→ s085999449: 風波大概到此平息,我也不說了~(紅茶) 1.175.9.170 03/05 22:58
推 clumsy0124: 乖媽跟童顏有關嗎?再也不會買童顏, 114.25.34.112 03/05 23:08
→ clumsy0124: 超想退5000多元的童顏面膜 114.25.34.112 03/05 23:08
推 lunaruko: 看了綠藤在官方FB上交待的始末及處理 61.239.66.189 03/06 00:07
→ lunaruko: 覺得還滿有誠意的啦 念在初犯且他們的 61.239.66.189 03/06 00:08
→ lunaruko: 理念真的不錯 應該會給一次機會 61.239.66.189 03/06 00:08
→ lunaruko: 畢竟洗面乳跟洗髮精真的很好用... 61.239.66.189 03/06 00:08
推 kimuranene: 沒關係 繼續洗推文 幫highlight 36.226.213.126 03/06 09:15
→ kimuranene: ==該公司未幫工讀生加保還理由一堆== 36.226.213.126 03/06 09:16
推 my801207: 天啊最近才想入手的說!拒買! 223.140.12.130 03/06 09:26
推 kaoru119: 我是不相信這樣規模的公司會「遺漏」「 101.13.20.211 03/06 12:25
→ kaoru119: 疏失」啦,怎麼可能員工報到會沒有SOP流 101.13.20.211 03/06 12:25
→ kaoru119: 程、會沒有加保這個程序? 101.13.20.211 03/06 12:25
推 susuqi: 只覺得某些id恨意滿點 111.184.9.71 03/06 21:52
推 susuqi: 選擇原諒也要被打成護航工讀生 111.184.9.71 03/06 21:54
→ leonian: 不會,如果幫工讀生加保這基本的小事都會 58.37.62.188 03/08 07:15
→ leonian: "疏失"那我也會擔心產品把關這塊有沒有可 58.37.62.188 03/08 07:15
→ leonian: 能會"疏失"呢? 再來也跟他們理念不合 58.37.62.188 03/08 07:16
推 runa: 粉轉黑 手上這批用完就不買 只能說期待越 101.15.128.19 03/08 18:05
→ runa: 高失望越大 101.15.128.19 03/08 18:05
推 drsjp: 原本沒跟到這個消息的 現在跟到了 36.234.207.18 03/10 20:28
推 liza800516: 沒跟到工讀生事件 但有之前有買週年慶 223.137.78.251 03/10 22:44
→ liza800516: 組合 很溫和 但也沒有讓人有回購動力 223.137.78.251 03/10 22:44
推 alliya: 很多公司不照勞基法走,不代表綠藤也可以223.137.111.188 03/13 20:02
→ alliya: 對勞工不友善的公司沒支持的道理223.137.111.188 03/13 20:03
推 betty790430: 唉喲好險有看到這篇,差點就要買了 111.83.111.55 03/14 00:12
推 InaLiang: 他們又不是一律不幫員工/工讀加勞健保210.245.181.114 03/16 11:47
→ InaLiang: 的確是有一批漏了,但這跟產品有甚麼關係210.245.181.114 03/16 11:47
→ InaLiang: 永豐餘是有跟綠藤創辦人(及母親)合作過210.245.181.114 03/16 11:48
→ InaLiang: 但兩者現在也沒有關係210.245.181.114 03/16 11:49
→ InaLiang: 新創公司都是老闆兼撞鐘,哪來什麼規模210.245.181.114 03/16 11:50
→ vonie: 綠藤的聲明有寫是共同創辦人的小孩叫小乖, 114.37.107.123 03/16 17:42
→ vonie: 跟乖媽並無關係唷,不要人云亦云 114.37.107.123 03/16 17:43
推 mirian0217: 不會,自己勞工基本權益都不管,再美223.138.175.172 03/19 15:20
→ mirian0217: 的文宣口號只讓人覺得虛偽223.138.175.172 03/19 15:20
推 wahahaha: 本來想買…經過此事決定不買了 114.25.36.242 04/03 12:43
推 Behere0: 會再給機會耶,台灣這麼誠實的公司不多了 59.127.241.167 08/23 08:33
→ Behere0: 針對提出的錯誤發表公開聲明並解釋&道歉 59.127.241.167 08/23 08:34
→ Behere0: 有多少廠商、多少人做的到呢? 59.127.241.167 08/23 08:34
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