比起提問更能讓彩妝有效進步的方式 - 美妝
By Megan
at 2015-02-16T09:51
at 2015-02-16T09:51
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先說這篇文比較嚴厲一點,不過並不是在針對任何一個人,只是想說一下這幾年來看美妝
版的心得
我從上大學時開始在美妝版看文和發文,至今也有快要十個年頭了,看過版友/部落客從
默默無名到紅的發紫,看過版主們來來去去,看過判決紛爭也看過幾次修改版規的討論
版規在這數年間幾經修改,但有一條是從我第一次進版以來完全沒變過的,就是下列圖片
中這條:
http://i.imgur.com/TAb9joR.jpg
是的,美妝版一直以來都不歡迎伸手牌——即使在文內說自己有爬文、最後卻沒有自己做
出小結再提問的人,依照版規定義仍是伸手牌
可能是因為這幾年使用APP上PTT很簡單、造成大量沒有細讀版規的新使用者湧入美妝版,
加上這三年來的幾位版主都忙於工作、沒辦法很即時的做到管版的關係,現在的美妝版對
伸手牌是越來越寬容
也許有人會想:『啊這就是時代的變遷啊,我們可以修版規啊,你這個老人可以快滾嗎不
要在這邊碎碎唸!』
但是我想請各位從兩個方面想想這個問題:
首先,如果你希望在這個版看到更多內容充實的美妝文,就請不要當伸手牌,也不要縱容
伸手牌
(不是要你一定要噓他,可以平推請對方去好好爬文做出小結再來談)
整天在版上看到伸手牌(而且還沒人勸阻),說真的很容易降低人發認真文的意願——然後
如此循環,最後美妝版就可以考慮改名為美妝閒聊/美妝伸手版了,十篇裡面八篇伸手,
相信這不是大家想看到的
再來是更重要的一點:
不直接提問,能學到的和能進步的絕對比較多
不是要你完全不問問題,而是希望你"用自己的腦袋好好思考過後再問問題"
心裡想著『我完全不知道該怎麼做』然後直接po問題上來,期待別人幫你思考然後再給你
答案,自己完全放棄自我思考的權利和判斷能力,只會完全淪為廠商的肥羊——再說句刺
耳的實話:
除非你最終遇到一個真心為你而且技巧高超的好彩妝師,否則用這種態度來面對彩妝,你
永遠也不會真正進步,只會自以為有進步
好的,以上重話說完,就來說說在版上發文求救前、你可以做些什麼來讓自己的彩妝技巧
更有效的進步:
1.爬文
包含爬精華區和使用關鍵字搜尋,好好的把每篇文都看過
有時會因為使用的關鍵字不對而找不到資料或只找到很少,建議可以換個關鍵字搜尋,關
鍵字也越短越好
例如:想找乾性皮膚使用的粉底,直接用"乾性粉底"出來的結果肯定不多,可以改成先搜
尋"乾性",結果出來後再搜尋"粉底",或甚至"乾性"之後只搜尋"底"(因為也有不少人的
標題是使用"底妝"而非"粉底")
2.列清單
無論是問產品或問技巧,都一定可以列出清單,甚至可以稍微統計一下哪個產品/技巧比
較多人推薦
3.好好思考每個產品/方式的優點缺點,並加以推衍甚至試驗之
這就是最重要的部分了:獨立思考的能力和實驗的動力
坐在電腦前面問一百次kate的粉底液好不好用,不如直接衝去藥妝店試在臉上一次快不是
嗎?
的確有的試用品被弄得很不衛生沒錯,但裝在擠壓瓶裡的基本上無此問題吧?其他產品可
以拿75%酒精或彩妝品專用的殺菌噴劑噴上去消毒、等乾了再試,唇膏也可以消毒後再轉
出沒人用過的部分用挖棒挖取;除了棉棒在管子內的唇蜜和睫毛膏,我真的想不到有什麼
是無法消毒後再試用的
加上版友覺得好用不代表你會覺得好用,因為彩妝這東西除了客觀判定之外還有個人喜好
問題:同樣一個產品給同卵雙胞胎試用,也可能會有一個超喜歡一個超討厭的狀況發生。
因此,自己嘗試並判定是很重要的步驟
沒有實驗就沒有進步,沒有練習就不會變強,道理就是那麼簡單
4.做個總結,再發問
如果以上你都做了卻仍覺得哪裡怪怪、或是仍沒達到你期望的效果,那麼就來版上發問吧
只是發問時要記得清楚的說明你自身的狀況、期待的效果、列出爬文後的口袋名單/解決
方法、已經嘗試或正打算嘗試哪些產品/方式,這樣版友們就可以和你有更深入的討論和
腦力激盪
以上只是一個老人的超長碎碎唸
如有違反版規敬請版主刪除
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版的心得
我從上大學時開始在美妝版看文和發文,至今也有快要十個年頭了,看過版友/部落客從
默默無名到紅的發紫,看過版主們來來去去,看過判決紛爭也看過幾次修改版規的討論
版規在這數年間幾經修改,但有一條是從我第一次進版以來完全沒變過的,就是下列圖片
中這條:
http://i.imgur.com/TAb9joR.jpg
是的,美妝版一直以來都不歡迎伸手牌——即使在文內說自己有爬文、最後卻沒有自己做
出小結再提問的人,依照版規定義仍是伸手牌
可能是因為這幾年使用APP上PTT很簡單、造成大量沒有細讀版規的新使用者湧入美妝版,
加上這三年來的幾位版主都忙於工作、沒辦法很即時的做到管版的關係,現在的美妝版對
伸手牌是越來越寬容
也許有人會想:『啊這就是時代的變遷啊,我們可以修版規啊,你這個老人可以快滾嗎不
要在這邊碎碎唸!』
但是我想請各位從兩個方面想想這個問題:
首先,如果你希望在這個版看到更多內容充實的美妝文,就請不要當伸手牌,也不要縱容
伸手牌
(不是要你一定要噓他,可以平推請對方去好好爬文做出小結再來談)
整天在版上看到伸手牌(而且還沒人勸阻),說真的很容易降低人發認真文的意願——然後
如此循環,最後美妝版就可以考慮改名為美妝閒聊/美妝伸手版了,十篇裡面八篇伸手,
相信這不是大家想看到的
再來是更重要的一點:
不直接提問,能學到的和能進步的絕對比較多
不是要你完全不問問題,而是希望你"用自己的腦袋好好思考過後再問問題"
心裡想著『我完全不知道該怎麼做』然後直接po問題上來,期待別人幫你思考然後再給你
答案,自己完全放棄自我思考的權利和判斷能力,只會完全淪為廠商的肥羊——再說句刺
耳的實話:
除非你最終遇到一個真心為你而且技巧高超的好彩妝師,否則用這種態度來面對彩妝,你
永遠也不會真正進步,只會自以為有進步
好的,以上重話說完,就來說說在版上發文求救前、你可以做些什麼來讓自己的彩妝技巧
更有效的進步:
1.爬文
包含爬精華區和使用關鍵字搜尋,好好的把每篇文都看過
有時會因為使用的關鍵字不對而找不到資料或只找到很少,建議可以換個關鍵字搜尋,關
鍵字也越短越好
例如:想找乾性皮膚使用的粉底,直接用"乾性粉底"出來的結果肯定不多,可以改成先搜
尋"乾性",結果出來後再搜尋"粉底",或甚至"乾性"之後只搜尋"底"(因為也有不少人的
標題是使用"底妝"而非"粉底")
2.列清單
無論是問產品或問技巧,都一定可以列出清單,甚至可以稍微統計一下哪個產品/技巧比
較多人推薦
3.好好思考每個產品/方式的優點缺點,並加以推衍甚至試驗之
這就是最重要的部分了:獨立思考的能力和實驗的動力
坐在電腦前面問一百次kate的粉底液好不好用,不如直接衝去藥妝店試在臉上一次快不是
嗎?
的確有的試用品被弄得很不衛生沒錯,但裝在擠壓瓶裡的基本上無此問題吧?其他產品可
以拿75%酒精或彩妝品專用的殺菌噴劑噴上去消毒、等乾了再試,唇膏也可以消毒後再轉
出沒人用過的部分用挖棒挖取;除了棉棒在管子內的唇蜜和睫毛膏,我真的想不到有什麼
是無法消毒後再試用的
加上版友覺得好用不代表你會覺得好用,因為彩妝這東西除了客觀判定之外還有個人喜好
問題:同樣一個產品給同卵雙胞胎試用,也可能會有一個超喜歡一個超討厭的狀況發生。
因此,自己嘗試並判定是很重要的步驟
沒有實驗就沒有進步,沒有練習就不會變強,道理就是那麼簡單
4.做個總結,再發問
如果以上你都做了卻仍覺得哪裡怪怪、或是仍沒達到你期望的效果,那麼就來版上發問吧
只是發問時要記得清楚的說明你自身的狀況、期待的效果、列出爬文後的口袋名單/解決
方法、已經嘗試或正打算嘗試哪些產品/方式,這樣版友們就可以和你有更深入的討論和
腦力激盪
以上只是一個老人的超長碎碎唸
如有違反版規敬請版主刪除
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