反推 榮笑彩妝課 - 美妝

By Dinah
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我是一個不常發文的板友 但是不好意思我也想表達一下意見
我認為榮笑板友敢開收費的美妝課,就不怕別人問問題
就像開武館的不怕人來踢館是吧?
因此原Po在美妝板表達她的負面意見,一點問題都沒有
或許個性內向的板眾們看到反推之後,會更了解教學的方式
進而決定該不該去上課,對吧?
但是我建議原Po可以勇敢發問,或是在課堂過後表達內心的看法
請教榮笑老師以他的認知,要參加什麼等級的課程比較適合
原Po說實話 你已經花了錢,我也希望你花的錢花得值得
今天不是貴不貴便不便宜的問題,對我來說是值不值得!
妝是在自己臉上的,每個女孩都希望自己的妝畫得更美給自己添加自信
希望原Po能找到適合自己的妝,沒有參加一兩堂課就可以從初心者變大神
多學多問多看!這是除了美妝之外,適用各種人生課題!
對了!我不在台灣,所以不認識榮笑!所以不是崩潰的粉絲!
共勉!
※ 引述《gl55025 (嘎嘎)》之銘言:
: 早起補充一下:
: 對不起,po文的時候欠缺考慮
: 後半段討論到榮笑大在版上的推文語氣和態度是我的不對
: 我應該單純敘述彩妝課的心得才是
: 不過因為已經經過一晚的討論,我想這時候拿掉也不是很適當
: 所以還是保留著原文,我會再另外去信位這件事情跟榮笑大道歉。
: 謝謝大家的回應和提醒
:
: -----------------
: 我看美妝版已經有好幾年的時間,從一個不太會化妝的人
: 到現在不能說是個高手但也小有心得,美妝版真的是幫了我很大的忙
: 每天都會上來晃晃看到大家的分享與心得(還有各種生火!!)真的給我很大的收穫
: 我心存感謝也希望自己能對這個版有些回饋
: 我一直很想寫一篇反推文但因為立場不同擔心招致批評
: 想了很久後,最後還是決定提供自己個人的感受讓大家參考
: 我想反推的是榮笑的彩妝課
: 在上榮笑的課程前我很崇拜榮笑
: 覺得她很會修正妝容,常常在推文中給予版友意見
: 而且也用過很多產品,能比較產品間的差異和優異
: 所以當榮笑大回到台灣且開始授課時我很快就報名了!
: 一堂課三小時6~8人一千多塊錢
: 雖然覺得人數有點太多還是報了
: 我算是有基礎的人,但在榮笑的Q&A中有這段
: http://i.imgur.com/3RDJ8ZV.jpg
: (我報名時的上課內容跟現在有些差異但大意和截圖差不多)
: 所以我就乖乖的選了基礎班
: 心裡想說榮笑一定可以給我更完整+正確的彩妝觀念
: 時間推到上課那天
: 那天是滿人8位學員而我放眼望去這八人一點都不像新手
: 除了大家帶的東西很多之外
: 還有就是有幾位學員發了COSPLAY的名片
: 名片上面的角色是他們出過的角色
: 我看那妝容絕非是剛碰化妝品的新手
: 因此也認為榮笑應該可以因應學員們的程度調整上課內容
: 我覺得大家的程度應該差不多,沒有特別新的新手,應該不用從很基礎開始講起
: 可能針對常見的錯誤或技巧做說明就好
: 正式上課時榮笑發給我們紙本講義
: 然後開始…………念~講~義~
: 我完全不覺得自己是在上課感覺比較像是在聽錄音帶
: 可如果是錄音帶,那麼應該要很有內容也是可以
: 結果!!!結果!!!
: 內容是:
: 底妝分成粉餅、粉底液、粉條,遮瑕力排序為:………….
: 還有什麼飾底乳修飾什麼顏色等等
: 一些我覺得只要花4~5百外買一本基礎彩妝書就能懂的東西
: 根本不用花這麼多錢來上課的內容
: 課程尾聲榮笑有拿不同顏色的布料讓我們分辨膚色到底是暖色調還是冷色調
: 我先承認這部分是我覺得整堂課中最值得的地方!
: 知道自己是冷調還是暖調對於選彩妝選色有很大的幫助
: BUT
: 這東西其實榮笑有在他的BLOG中聊過:
: http://undine3958.pixnet.net/blog/post/41902858
: 只是我無法理解為什麼文章內容的判斷方式和榮笑在課堂上說的不一樣
: 到底是哪裡出問了蛤~到底~
: 只能說,回家再看一次文章內容後,我又搞不清楚自己是冷調還是暖調了= =
: 又因為這樣,上完榮笑的課讓我覺得毫無收穫.....
: 附上一張照片來證明我是真的有上過課
: 而且講這一段的時候還拍照做筆記。
: http://imgur.com/dl9hUqA
: 接著上眼妝課。
: (絕對不是因為上了基礎課後覺得好棒棒而繼續報名,
: 而是一開始就失心瘋報了三堂課;第三堂課因為不同天退掉了)
: 一樣也是一對八上課
: 在上課前有想過這麼多人是否無法好好的詢問自己的問題
: 但當時想到有機會當面問榮笑就還是報名了(畢竟當時很崇拜他)
: 上課的時候榮笑請了一個學員示範2~3個眼妝
: 示範完後換我們自己畫自己
: 我原以為榮笑應該下場巡視一下的狀況,給學員們一些直接的反饋或修正方向
: 結果呢!!?
: 她竟然坐回他的座位清理刷具………………..
: 挖哩哩
: 我花錢上課只為了看他示範2~3個眼妝嘛….
: 這樣的話我去百貨公司看XX老師在櫃前的示範就好了啊!!!!!!
: 好啦,我知道其實有些很知名老師的確是上「示範課」
: 不過我當下就是覺得榮笑並不屬於知名老師
: 又或者榮笑在之後應該針對每個學員的問題做提醒
: 可是都沒有,只有有發問才有答案
: 我個人認為,收了這樣的錢和這樣的上課人數應該更直接的讓學員有收穫才是
: 課程上實質的內容大概就這樣 花了錢去上課收穫卻很少
: 倒是榮笑真的有很多彩妝品
: 有很多是台灣沒有賣的
: 可以在代買前先在榮笑那邊摸摸看質地算是一種收穫
: 可是….我應該是去上課不是去試色的吧XDDDDD
: 上課沒有得到收穫外,有機會當面見到榮笑化的妝也讓我很訝異。
: 以前都是透過照片上來看榮笑的作品
: 那時候覺得榮笑的技巧很好妝感很漂亮
: 但面對面直接看則覺得底妝很厚重而且眼妝很髒…..
: (又或者說,完全不是我喜歡的那種妝感)
: 關於這點我有和其他版友聊過
: 然後被板友一句話敲醒:「榮笑是COSPLAY出身的,
: 所以他的妝容在相機底下會有很棒的效果,但實際上可能不然。」
: 經過了這些我想跟版友們說,不管在哪裡的照片或影片真的都只能當參考
: 一個你在網路上覺得畫的很好的人,實際上可能妝很濃
: 一個你在網路上看起來妝效很好的產品,實際上可能是個大雷品
: 總而言之 言而總之
: 凡是跟彩妝有關的人或產品網路上的資訊還是參考就好
: 只有自己看過、摸過、用過才是最實際
: 就算美妝版上所有版友都覺得不好用
: 但你自己覺得好用那它就是好用!
: 話都說到這裡了我決定繼續講下去
: 上過榮笑課後我就再也不崇拜他,不覺得她是偶像了
: 反而覺得她只是一個有很多北美彩妝品的版友。
: 可這名版友不知道為什麼
: 好像老覺得自己很厲害常常在推文中指導PO文者的妝容。
: 我會這樣說的意思是
: 在後來常常可以在推文中看到榮笑
: 可我覺得榮笑的推文不是非常客氣
: 這裡的不客氣並不是指他說了什麼難聽的話或酸了誰
: 而是「只要你們不是照我照套理論都是錯!」的感覺
: 好似所有的審美都應該照他在北美或歐美彩妝師那樣才對
: 就像前幾天板友crazystacy發了一篇文章
: 榮笑在推文裡頭不止一次提到可以畫假眼頭
: 而
: 我想問的是:難道C大自己不能覺得自己眼距開是特色是一種美感嗎?
: 為什麼感覺榮笑一直想說服C大畫眼頭?
: 諸如此類的推文在版上常常發生
: 我能同意榮笑有榮笑的審美、理論、心得
: 但我真心無法接受榮笑一直想要看似客氣的說服別人跟他一樣
: 大概就這樣
: 謝謝好友鼓勵我把這篇反推文寫出來
: 這些話我真的憋了很~~~~~久~~~~~
: 因為每次榮笑發言都會有很多版友力推
: 搞得我有點搞不清楚自己反推他的彩妝課到底是不是自己的問題- -
: 所以提供自己的個人感受給大家參考
: 當然也許有人在他的課堂上得到了許多收穫
: 只是一定也有人跟我一樣
: 感受不是很好
: 也讓初學者或新手們
: 在學化妝這條路上
: 知道說 不是每個人的審美觀都相同
: 也不是每個人的化妝技巧就都適合自己
: 可以聆聽許多人的心得
: 配合自己的五官與臉型特色
: 去選擇對自己化起來最美的化妝方式
: 榮笑畫起來很美的技巧與妝容
: 不見得適用在每個人的身上
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