最近很紅的TR90~ - 減肥
By Michael
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本身研究基因學
一點心得分享:)
前面恕刪
: : 不運動不飲食控制 體脂怎麼可能降!
事實上
直銷板有勇者去探險了~
http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/DirectSales/M.1378142279.A.447.html
並沒有完全的不運動不節食
TR90一套四萬
直銷商還是會叫你要吃3333
基本上所謂的3333也就是板娘跟版友正在做的
(引述上面連結勇者探險後的瞭解)
3333就是
每天三餐每餐一份
肉類蛋白共三份 燃脂蛋白
非肉類蛋白共三份 燃脂蛋白
根莖澱粉共三份 能量五穀
蔬菜加水果共三份 繽紛果蔬
然後要搭配所謂的均適奶昔取代一正餐 ->一份澱粉一份蛋白質
然後會去勸說你不要吃"不健康",對身體不好的甜點之類的東西
(如果偷吃會被賣你的督導(教練)指責~
如果吃完產品沒效,通常會說是因為你偷吃)
TR90還有
勻致膠囊->每天早餐午餐要吃一顆
主要成分有:富铬酵母,荷葉萃取物
富铬酵母->葡萄糖耐量因子的重要活性成份,三價鉻的復合物是胰島素的增強劑
可以促進胰島素和受體結合,因而可以促進蛋白質的合成,脂肪代謝
荷葉萃取物->排水腫(就是中醫會開的荷葉茶)
啟燃飲品->早餐喝一杯
成分:血橙萃取物,褐藻萃取物,綠茶萃取物,
柑橘生物類黄酮,槲皮素(洋葱球莖萃取),辣椒萃取物
生物類黃酮就是維生素C,槲皮素也是黃酮類化合物
所以這杯推測是在補充維生素C。
星沛膠囊->每餐兩顆
成分:可可粉萃取物,酸樱桃萃取物,石榴萃取物,茶氨酸
主要是多酚->降低食慾,促進飽足趕,尤其是酸樱桃萃取物,石榴萃取物
R2->早餐六顆晚餐兩顆
成分:人蔘、冬蟲夏草、葡萄籽等
基本上是補品,人蔘、冬蟲夏草在中醫也常開,用來排毒等,
所以基本上這是補品
所以基因調控在哪裡?
其實Nuskin確實是有paper在Science期刊
但那篇paper是什麼呢?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19590001
Caloric restriction delays disease onset and mortality in rhesus monkeys.
Science. 2009 Jul 10;325(5937):201-4. doi: 10.1126/science.1173635
這是在說透過熱量控制且吃的營養的猴子
某些老年表徵的基因會比較不表現
就是老的比較慢那樣
所以呢~
其實新皮所謂的調控基因
應該要改說成
藉由控制環境(也就是熱量控制,營養飲食)
去影響某些基因的表現
基本上這個在
2004年就有一篇突破性的paper了
請看美國科學院院刊上的科學論文
http://www.pnas.org/content/101/44/15718.long
The gut microbiota as an environmental factor that regulates fat storage
(真的蠻好的,引用了14xx多次~)
詳細實驗內容可以看我在某板寫過的分享
http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/DirectSales/M.1379005539.A.EE4.html
主要就是在說
腸道內的環境會影響腸道內的菌種菌叢
某些腸道菌可以去抑制 基因fiaf 的表現量
fiaf基因可以去抑制LPL(脂肪脢)
所以就是說可以有某種腸道菌去防止別人不讓他儲存脂肪
結論就是
目前沒有什麼直接調控基因的食品
真的去調控了,那叫療法,請去找醫生
吃東西是不會去改變你的基因的
頂多因為你吃什麼,而造成你的身體的某種"環境"
而某些基因在這種環境(肥胖,老年什麼的)的表現量會有所不一樣那樣。
補充一下:
基因調控的正統方法:
基因學上的基因調控
是身體自己的調控
基因是核苷酸atcg的排列
像是RNA上的 UAG/UGA/UAA/AGA/AGG 排列,就是代表停止轉譯的意思
(所以UAG/UGA/UAA/AGA/AGG都是終止子的一種)
原文筆誤ACA,感謝h2243398修正~
人的染色體是由八個組蛋白+外面纏繞dna序列而成
dna序列則是ATCG四種核甘酸的排列
http://ppt.cc/k1dk
紅紅的球就是八個組蛋白的八禹體
藍藍的就是dna,帶有基因密碼
人體的DNA都是同一套(粒腺體例外)
你想想看你的眼睛細胞跟肝臟細胞share同一套dna
可是你的眼睛長得一點也不像肝臟
你的肝臟上面也沒有眼睛
這就是我們人體有去做"調控"
在你的染色體動手腳
給你的組蛋白加上修飾
(可google組蛋白修飾)
如果加上甲基
你的組蛋白某段的跟dna的鬆緊度就會改變
緊了-> DNA饞太緊->無法轉錄成RNA->無法轉譯成蛋白質->無法表現
鬆了就反過來
目前人類還沒有技術做人工的體外修飾調控
(曾有人做過,但是是很白痴人體直接灌入修飾因子
結果病人就整組溶解掛了(代謝&離子失衡->全身多重器官衰竭))
現在人類最多就是做體外細胞培養,然後去調控一顆一顆細胞那樣
精子也是很好的例子
你看精子
不就是你身上的細胞的dna砍一半變成的
你身上每顆細胞代的基因都一樣
但是精子唯一的目的就是找到卵子
所以精子所有的基因都被調控成關閉
精子只要負責努力往前游泳就好
等跟受精卵結合以後
成套的染色體才會再做解修飾
讓基因表現出來
那麼如新在講的ageLOC是什麼呢
ageLOC其實只是一套"量測基因表現"的技術,平台而已
: 本身醫護背景加上對生物科技有涉獵來回個文,
: 人類在2008年才正式對基因解碼,
: 更不用說到現在還有些人不知道基因解碼了XDD
: 但對於基因表現可以改變這件事情其實一天到晚發生在我們生活當中,
: 簡單一個概念:當人類剛出生時,體內的大腸菌是以乳糖為食物,
: 但在斷奶之後即以攝取葡萄糖為主,
: 研究發現如果葡萄糖存在時,消化乳糖的酵素就不產生;
: 如果葡萄糖不存在而乳糖出現時,消化乳糖的酵素就會出現。
: 簡言之,有沒有葡萄糖這件事情可以調控基因表現。
: 每個東西都需要調控,相對的基因也不例外,
: 在不同的時候、空間、生長速度、溫度、濕度、空間,
: 如腦細胞與製造胰島素的肝細胞分別做不同的事情並且有不同的功能,
: 所以必須要有不同的調控來控制哪些基因在什麼時候需要表現或是哪些基因不要表現,
: 這是現在分子生物學上非常重要的課題。
: 而發表這項產品的Nu SKIN公司本身的科研團隊都很頂尖,
: 對科學家想興趣的人可以自己去查
: 他們併購了當年最威的基因科技公司Life Gen,
: 歷經了數年的研究,我猜錢應該也花得不少,
: (實驗室一塊基因晶片要500美元....)
這還好吧XD以有做基因實驗的實驗室
這算小耗材吧XD
一套tr90可是要4萬的XD
: 本身背景加上對減肥有所研究,我也去實際上pudmed找相關研究論文,
: 想看paper的鄉民請站內信。
: 結論,從調控基因表現去減重跟增加肌肉這件事情是可行的,
有直接調控的,應該是體外細胞吧@@而且應該是cell line的?
應該沒有哪間實驗室這麼大膽的說他們直接去改變了某某人的基因吧0.0
如新那篇是去改變身體環境->某些基因比較不表現,某些比較表現
fitness的板友們也是在吃的營養(改變身體環境)->瘦
: 試驗也都證明沒有副作用,
: 對於這件事情的可行性是肯定的,已然是個趨勢。
: 只是太新興的概念在市面推出必定有褒有貶,
: 像當年的整形一樣...但現在東區整條路XD
: 我想這等產品跟科技也只能由NUSKIN這等大公司來達到了
其實最早做這種改善人體環境而改變基因表現的
應該是各大化妝品抗老研究室XD
他們不會比較小喔~
: 以上。
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