健身房系統訓練出來的人跟特種部隊比? - 健身

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昨天跟幾個在當職業軍人的朋友聊天,聊到健身的話題,這幾個朋友好像有點不以為然的
感覺,他們說你叫健身房練練出來的人跟特種部隊或是體幹班出來的比看看,健身房的一
定被打趴,健身房練出來都是好看而已,一點耐力都沒有,他們說部隊裡有好幾個長官都
是比兩棲海龍更操的特種部隊出來的,還把你丟到野外求生訓練,比較低階的體幹班訓練
也是每天拉著那種聯結車尺寸的輪胎跑山上來回好幾趟,還整天把你丟到海裡游好幾公里
來回,我聽了還蠻傻眼的,不是一樣都
是操出來的,差距還會這麼大嗎?那有在健身的板友對這種說法有什麼想法呢?
※ 編輯: kuanfu (42.75.10.164 臺灣), 11/04/2019 10:50:17
感覺,他們說你叫健身房練練出來的人跟特種部隊或是體幹班出來的比看看,健身房的一
定被打趴,健身房練出來都是好看而已,一點耐力都沒有,他們說部隊裡有好幾個長官都
是比兩棲海龍更操的特種部隊出來的,還把你丟到野外求生訓練,比較低階的體幹班訓練
也是每天拉著那種聯結車尺寸的輪胎跑山上來回好幾趟,還整天把你丟到海裡游好幾公里
來回,我聽了還蠻傻眼的,不是一樣都
是操出來的,差距還會這麼大嗎?那有在健身的板友對這種說法有什麼想法呢?
※ 編輯: kuanfu (42.75.10.164 臺灣), 11/04/2019 10:50:17
→ knifechen: 反過來想,如果軍人還輸了不是更好笑。這不是他的本職 11/04 10:51
→ knifechen: 工作嗎? 那怎不叫軍人跟物理學家比智商(?) 11/04 10:52
推 tutu0106: 訓練目標又不同,練成巨巨你要怎麼夜間潛伏狙殺,身材 11/04 10:56
推 Violence5566: 訓練目的不一樣的東西沒什麼好比的吧 11/04 10:56
→ tutu0106: 壯碩在戰場上目標多大...防彈衣都快穿不下了 11/04 10:56
→ tutu0106: 肌肉量大基礎代謝高在叢林野戰能撐多久 11/04 10:58
噓 DrPaper: 張飛大岳飛 11/04 10:58
→ DrPaper: 下一篇健身房出來的的跟拳擊的比? 11/04 10:59
推 ken812025: 專業不同 這樣也能比喔 職業軍人 恩…… 11/04 11:05
→ lohsuan: 直接比腦袋算了 健"美"本來就是健好看 運動功能其次 11/04 11:07
噓 simonfz: 你怎麼不當下跟他Pk一場就知道啦 11/04 11:07
推 a8312116: 那怎麼不跟專業運動員比專項-.- 11/04 11:08
噓 zxc12131266: 國軍的話聽聽就好...美軍特戰很注重重訓好嗎 11/04 11:09
噓 seanlord: 國軍素質zzz 11/04 11:16
噓 kuangit29: 除草大隊站粗乃 11/04 11:16
→ WantFxxk4X: 被職業軍人這種智商說服 我無言以對 11/04 11:17
推 Shaqui11e: 專業技能不一樣沒什麼好比的吧 又不是小學生這麼愛比 11/04 11:23
噓 scott112: 美軍都不做仰臥起坐好幾年了好嗎......國軍落後先進國家 11/04 11:23
→ scott112: 各方面的訓練好幾年起跳 11/04 11:24
噓 guesswhen: 職業軍人智商 跟 原波的智商 差距多大 11/04 11:24
→ scott112: 而且訓練專項不一樣啊 11/04 11:24
推 jonathan912: 邏輯上要理清楚,為何一定要二分法? 11/04 11:30
→ jonathan912: 難道健身房練出來的人就通通長一樣?軍人通通都長一 11/04 11:30
→ jonathan912: 樣? 11/04 11:30
→ themost: 常常練什麼,就很會做什麼 就是這樣而已 11/04 11:35
噓 hermes20372: 完全二分法且只把健身房訓練的族群歸類為健美訓練, 11/04 11:36
→ hermes20372: 專項訓練者跟高階crossfiter完全不會輸好嗎? 11/04 11:36
→ sttarmbcb390: 健身房沒體力的只有健美"瘦子"吧 以為自己健美其實 11/04 11:38
→ sttarmbcb390: 只是體脂低 11/04 11:38
噓 wen12305: 術業有專攻,看你平常練啥 11/04 11:39
推 ajim36: 肌耐力 肌肥大 需求不一樣吧 11/04 11:44
推 wu0966: crossfit 大概會贏一半以上的軍人 11/04 11:44
推 chu630: 我是不信職業軍人能贏crossfit選手 11/04 11:45
噓 hws606: 這是發廢文刷發文數吧 11/04 11:47
→ finalhope: 重量訓練可以視為特定目的的功能訓練,健身房跟特種部 11/04 11:50
→ finalhope: 隊去比較是沒有意義的。 11/04 11:50
→ hws606: 扛輪胎訓練我相信,但拖聯結車的輪胎跑山? 11/04 11:52
→ hws606: 軍人也可能去健身房啊,健身房又沒有限制身分 11/04 11:53
→ liquidbox: 拿不專業的軍人跟專項選手比也是天才 11/04 11:54
推 alloc: 一個是業餘休閒 一個是專業工作 你要怎麼比? 11/04 11:54
→ liquidbox: 專練健美跟專練戰技,當然練戰技會贏 11/04 11:54
→ hws606: 比專項軍人不見得贏吧,拿野外求生比運動表現什麼邏輯 11/04 11:55
→ liquidbox: 一堆新人練了健身就以為什麼運動都會強才好笑 11/04 11:55
→ hbl420ii: 國軍都還要請館長來教 就知道素質了 11/04 11:55
噓 xxtuoo: 這也要來問 無聊Zzz 11/04 11:56
噓 hws606: 軍人那種操練法很多也是傷身體,練得效率不見得比較好 11/04 11:57
推 sunshinecan: 以戰技來說當然軍人會比較熟練 不然平日訓練都白費了 11/04 12:02
噓 b2481: 軍人果然都不練腦的www 11/04 12:03
→ sunshinecan: 單純比重訓的重量跟組數的話 可能就是健身房占優 11/04 12:05
→ liquidbox: 館長根本不是練健美 11/04 12:05
推 ange09: 為什麼拿健身房的全部跟軍隊裡強的特種部隊來比? 11/04 12:05
→ niravaabhas: 這文章意義是啥? 11/04 12:06
噓 jasop: 目的不同 沒什麼好比的 11/04 12:07
推 eric5321: 國軍廚房要不要跟外面廚師比一下? 11/04 12:07
噓 lunping852: 你那位朋友智商堪憂 你要小心不要變成那樣 11/04 12:09
推 point149ptt: #邏輯健身 11/04 12:10
推 weijiekuo: 最近蓋伊有去海豹突擊隊的訓練營 11/04 12:14
→ minoru04: 是要比什麼也不講清楚 耐力? 野外求生? 游泳? 11/04 12:15
→ sttarmbcb390: 應該說跟強的特種部隊無法比... 但說會被打趴....特 11/04 12:16
→ sttarmbcb390: 種部隊體能上下差距也不小 11/04 12:17
推 omfg5487: ㄏㄏ 等等這篇又會被刪 11/04 12:18
→ sttarmbcb390: 健身房則是有太多專項要怎混為一談 網球選手也重訓 11/04 12:18
→ sttarmbcb390: 難道網球選手肌耐力被國軍屌打? 11/04 12:19
→ sumton: 就像叫軍人去跟馬拉松選手比跑,訓練目的不同到底有什麼好 11/04 12:20
→ sumton: 比的 11/04 12:20
推 Arens5566: 土法煉鋼最棒 11/04 12:21
→ sttarmbcb390: 蓋伊至少證明有能力訓練成特種部隊 而不是健身房都 11/04 12:21
→ sttarmbcb390: 沒體力廢物 11/04 12:21
噓 h821231: 目的不同你到底想要比什麼 11/04 12:22
推 chigo520: 功能性訓練阿…你叫跑馬拉松的去比游泳對麼? 11/04 12:23
→ chigo520: 你自己觀念沒有搞清楚 11/04 12:23
推 aa7520tw: 特種部隊能一次做一百下伏地挺身,健身房三項巨巨大概只 11/04 12:29
→ aa7520tw: 能十下 11/04 12:29
推 XXPLUS: 健美和體幹班這兩者唯一可以比的就是誰身上舊傷比較多 11/04 12:32
噓 adaplant: 這跟叫街健跟健力互拼一樣無聊 用腦想想再發言 滾 11/04 12:32
→ honey2616: 呵呵呵 11/04 12:37
→ v2266514: 感覺你是在洗文章的 11/04 12:39
噓 voohong: 大家對這種文章真好 11/04 13:03
推 wtlnana: 只是體驗並且分享給網友而且 有人說要比嗎 11/04 13:04
推 wawa1109: 軍人 呵呵 11/04 13:08
推 MASOMASO: 數學冠軍去比物理 唉呦 不都算出來的嘛 11/04 13:11
→ MASOMASO: 拳擊冠軍去比跆拳 唉呦 不都打出來的嘛 11/04 13:12
→ MASOMASO: 純屬玩笑 看到不都操出來的嗎 看到有感而發笑了 11/04 13:13
推 minoru04: 果然是職業軍人會講出來的話 11/04 13:19
→ dream2614: 比什麼項目?根本張飛打岳飛 11/04 13:37
→ dream2614: 那健身房系統是指專項選手?一般人? 11/04 13:37
→ dream2614: 沒有比的明確項目根本無法比 11/04 13:38
→ dream2614: 更何況健身房每個人訓練目標百百種,是指哪一種? 11/04 13:39
噓 ziso: 所以你朋友體格怎樣?不然為啥健美的不是跟他比 要跟特種部隊 11/04 13:41
噓 abc801224: 這要比啥zzzzz 11/04 13:50
→ dream2614: 檢視內文裡面說練好看就當做專業健美選手 11/04 13:50
→ dream2614: 然後講耐力還有游泳等就當做三鐵選手好了 11/04 13:51
推 john042051: 訓練方向不一樣不然你叫軍人跟練健力的比三項總和數字 11/04 13:51
→ john042051: 好了 11/04 13:51
→ dream2614: 等於叫健美選手跟三鐵選手比三鐵,目標不一樣...... 11/04 13:52
→ dream2614: 無法比 11/04 13:52
推 cloning: 他是說一點耐力都沒有 特戰出身大概最適合是參加goruck 11/04 13:56
噓 Giancar1o: 結論 職軍朋友是酸民 見不得別人身材好 受國軍可笑訓 11/04 14:13
→ Giancar1o: 練後自以為很精實 開始看不起健身房訓練者 11/04 14:13
噓 voohong: 那為什麼頂尖運動員都不是軍人?來引戰嗎? 11/04 14:15
推 thetins: 其實他講的一部分是對的,如果只練三項或傳統重訓,身體 11/04 14:22
→ thetins: 有可能會像機械戰警一樣 11/04 14:22
→ BUMAS: 看比什麼吧,拿自己專長的來比別人非專長的,不對吧 11/04 14:25
推 a135791hdhc: 健身房本來就是練好看 11/04 14:26
→ rock8655: 這邏輯很軍人 11/04 14:27
推 jeeyi345: John Cena 11/04 14:32
噓 tim956: 果然台灣當兵不用腦 11/04 14:41
噓 skykenny611: 連健身房都不想去的~跟人聊個屁 11/04 14:45
噓 Tiiiiing: 完美詮釋國軍素質 11/04 14:50
噓 Lpissostrong: .... 11/04 14:54
→ tengsan: 健美如果不練有氧的確會慘輸沒錯,可以去看看KosmoFit 11/04 15:04
推 impact999: 呃...自己強再來說嘴吧 職業運動員也會用健身房 11/04 15:07
→ tengsan: 肌力耐力全輸,他自己也承認要加強有氧,所以5個月後他 11/04 15:08
→ tengsan: 所以健身房練出來的不是能不能,而是要不要的問題!! 11/04 15:12
噓 MartinJu: 你是不是在抹黑國軍弟兄 11/04 15:23
噓 t19960804: 傻逼國軍的操法完全是自殘 志願役智商不意外 11/04 15:24
推 soulboy330: 海豹訓練也淘汰不少肌肉男 專項不同不能比 一天都不 11/04 15:33
→ soulboy330: 只操三個小時而且還持續幾個月 11/04 15:33
→ soulboy330: 你對照美國狙擊手的片頭跟這個比就知道少很多東西 11/04 15:34
推 shields5566: 神奇小釣手 11/04 15:38
噓 linqwe379: 上戰場深蹲200公斤有個屁用 11/04 16:07
→ linqwe379: 專項根本不同比三小 11/04 16:07
噓 FollowMe6: 比三小 11/04 16:37
噓 DabouLin: 就是有這種智商堪憂的言論才害人看不起國軍。連專項不同 11/04 16:44
→ DabouLin: 都不懂,不然你叫軍人去posing看看,或是比健力三項。 11/04 16:45
噓 satan317: 看比什麼好嗎 11/04 16:49
推 m82: 健身房出來的....館長算嗎 11/04 17:01
噓 youGG: 目的不一樣要比三小,國軍特種去跟美軍海豹比啊 11/04 17:29
噓 ujm50561: 國軍有訓練? 11/04 18:01
噓 gumgumex: 這篇是在故意讓國軍被看不起嗎 11/04 18:30
推 lurara: 我以為職業軍人是吃葷的掃地僧 11/04 20:06
噓 chasegirl: 還call 特種部隊跟體幹班 怎麼不自己上來比 笑死 全台 11/04 20:33
→ chasegirl: 灣男生都知道職業軍人的鳥樣 11/04 20:33
噓 allen0981: 想當年少年時龜山島來回兩趟。 11/04 20:45
噓 s803310: 想當年少年時凌晨1點還游到蓬萊仙山好幾趟 11/04 21:06
噓 fix78: 笑死,一堆軍人只會說特戰海龍蛙人很猛屌打健身房巨巨,但 11/04 22:07
→ fix78: 每一個敢說自己比巨巨猛的 11/04 22:07
→ fix78: 台灣一堆擺爛職業軍人肚子肥油比孕婦還大 11/04 22:08
→ chaosly0124: 先定義比什麼,認真回不會輸 11/04 23:44
噓 noomlluf72: 怎麼一堆像八卦版的文呀 11/05 01:02
推 roy53: 比寫字!! 11/05 11:45
→ DATION: 根本不一樣東西是耍智障? 11/05 12:13
→ hornet01: Josh Bridges Navy Seals退役之後成為Crossfit 耐力 11/05 15:23
→ hornet01: 關的確是贏其他選手 但其他項目就沒有了 11/05 15:23
噓 kixer2005: 洗文章膩 11/05 18:34
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