是斷命的心得?(原斷食的精髓) - 減肥
By Charlotte
at 2017-02-19T04:25
at 2017-02-19T04:25
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(下面會引用一小段對話,我被氣到了,在凌晨打這篇,他喵的。文件我懶得掉到翻譯機,那英文好懂。這都不懂不可能看得懂 Jason 說的,別浪費時間)
以下這段『不是鬼扯』,這一個問題,我將減肥師,醫師抽臉抽了很多次。
歡迎大家『熱切討論』
我『鬼扯』的就我沒方法去『精準控制的內分泌』,我能隨手就切出一安士的起司,卻沒有方法去確定 betacell dysfunction 的原因,是添加劑,是精製品,是環境,是農藥,是污染還是其他。而 metabolism 錯亂, betacell dysfunction 也只是『成因之一』。
首先,立論點是,這世界很多人引用的,身體能量使用公式,本來就『出現錯誤』。
TDEE 不是不能算,而是一堆人,包括減肥師使用的算式,『錯誤』
這是我引用了極多次的文件,在 USDA 都有一份
這一份文件的設計,不是為減肥,而是『不把人餓死』
http://www.fao.org/docrep/007/y5686e/y5686e07.htm
5. ENERGY REQUIREMENTS OF ADULTS
BMR ,PAL ,TDEE 意思,自己問谷歌。
但以一個正常人來說。
吃 BMR 的 1.4 左右 ,是下限
吃 BMR 的 1.4 左右 ,是下限
吃 BMR 的 1.4 左右 ,是下限
隨手找一位 55Kg 的女生,基礎代謝都 1100
PAL 1.4 已經是 1540 大卡。
我愛推薦的四群點數法,建議攝取的 1600 大卡,原則上能和這作出呼應。
※※※※分隔線※※※
取 PAL 1.4 ,1600大卡計算。
減重赤字,20%,是 1280 卡。
這是少得不能再少,55Kg 女生的攝取值
假如少於這一數字,已經不是減肥,而是絕命
在文章最後我會有貼圖,到底這一種份量 ...
有多少人能好好的乖乖的吞到肚子。
一大幫『天才』引用 Jason 的資料。偏偏,Jason 的資料,很多都進入了絕命式的範圍。不是 TDEE 不能算,而是熱量赤字極大之下,身體會很能夠去調整能源使用量。
攝食低於 80%,很能夠進入 Starvation mode
Jason 的原因,是 Fasting ,而不是 Starvation.
Fasting 求的,有激效效應意味。
Starvation 引伸的,是延命。
兩者的分別,非常非常大。
假如熱量赤字,又不進入絕對性的 Fasting mode.要維持肌肉量,要採取的食用式,叫 Ketogain .
甚麼都能少,就是不能少蛋白質
要維持肌肉需要確保胺基酸。當碳水赤字過強,誰知道那一種胺基酸會跑到糖質增新 GNG 而沒跑到肌體的重建?
熱量赤字下,最能夠保證肌肉的叫蛋白質
熱量赤字下,最能夠保證肌肉的叫蛋白質
熱量赤字下,最能夠保證肌肉的叫蛋白質
要攪斷食,偏偏只靠直覺?
最好有足夠的胃量。
假如直覺準確,你認為你需要他喵的攪斷食去『減肥』?
不懂得去計算 TDEE ,和不能計算 TDEE
是兩種慨念
喜愛攪內分泌攪血糖攪胰島素,卻連基本會影響血糖的荷爾蒙有四種都不知道
你跟我扯荷爾蒙理論?
閃一邊回個版攪形而上去吧,天才!
It's insurlin? It's food ,Stupid !
http://i.imgur.com/1Yo6iUB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XXjFRsC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5dUs9Q0.jpg
※ 引述《circlelee (非斷不可)》之銘言:
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7oLbFPo6jY
: dr fung的訪談從19分鐘到26分鐘,這是我認為斷食的精髓之處
: 原則上分成兩段,第一段講斷食執行的方法、觀念
: 第二段講斷食跟生活整合在一起。
: 我英文翻譯能力不好,也只能大概描述重點,若有誤解還請不吝指導一下
: 第一段的觀念是
: 斷食過程中最好是只喝水就好。
: 不然就喝盡量無熱量的茶或黑咖啡,但代糖、甜味劑不建議
: 他有提到fat fast也就是喝防彈咖啡(黑咖啡加脂肪、奶油or椰子油orMCT)
: 雖然也有一定的熱量但是fat的升胰島素指數很低
: 在較長時間的斷食中也有人會喝含有蛋白質、膠質的大骨湯
: 觀念好的地方在,斷食方法有非常非常多種
: 只要可以讓你好好斷下去,都可以使用
: 他也提到有些方法並非算是真斷食,但這不是重點,他並不在意
: 重點是你道底有沒有因此而獲利、減重、身體變好(這也是我一直強調的)
: 如果有的話,就繼續下去
: 如果沒有的話,你可能就要調整,回到清水斷。
: 我並非打這些是要說服大家我喝拿鐵斷是對的。
: 在以下網頁有講到加牛奶的問題
: https://www.dietdoctor.com/intermittent-fasting/questions-and-answers#variants
: 附上原文
: While fasting is it okay to drink coffee with milk? I can’t do black coffee.
: I have a little milk with my coffee.
: Technically, the milk does not fall within the guidelines of a true fast, but
: the small amount of milk/ cream added to coffee improves compliance
: tremendously for some people. So in our program, we absolutely allow milk/
: cream in coffee, but no sweeteners or sugar.
: ps:有人可能認為我乎略了下一段,但礙於篇幅您可自行去網頁看
: 喝牛奶當然對斷食是不好的,但fung認為也可以允許一點點。
: 雖然喝牛奶的確不能算一個標準的斷食。
: 但對我而言,那是一個工作習慣、說是一種嗜好也可以。
: 我自己的想法是,如果這樣一樣能瘦下去,就繼續下去
: 如果不能,那我的確應該修正成清水斷。
: 但我一週會有幾天中午才喝,至少也可說是斷16,這你無法否認。
: 很多人一直想去區分,道底是熱赤瘦還是斷食瘦,對你可能重要
: 但對我一點都不重要。我可以瘦的健康、瘦的不掉肌肉,我管它是什麼原因瘦的
: 或許對我來說兩者很難區分,或是區分又有何意義?
: 人與人的身體個別差異也不盡相同。對我有用的,不一定對你有用,反之亦然。
: 第二段講的就是如何將斷食融入生活中
: 我很喜歡dr. fung講的,life is matter of balance
: 吃大餐是人類社會很典型的慶祝方式,過年、耶誕節、情人節、婚禮等等
: fast & feast就是一種平衡,人生也才會有樂趣
: 你不會想在這些節慶的時候,憋手憋腳、這個不能吃,那個不能喝
: 白天斷食的時候利用脂肪產生的酮體,精神好
: 晚上放鬆大吃、歡樂又能補充到一天的營養
: 吃飽喝足,好好睡,睡好好,早上起床後繼續再斷
: 我認為這是很好的一種飲食方式
: 斷食也是很有彈性的方法,如果中午要跟同事聚餐大吃,那就考慮skip掉晚餐
: 如果晚餐一定要跟家人吃飯,那就早午不吃
: 那天晚上跟朋友約吃大餐,你白天就可以斷一整天,晚上開心大吃。
: 你仍然可以大吃一口,然後告訴你的朋友你在減肥,他們一定會很驚訝。
: 之後你就瘦給他們看,用自己的身體證明一切。
: 總之你一定可以找到適合你人際生活的斷食模式
: 這些也是我個人認為斷食略勝於生酮的地方,自由度大很多。
: 不過減重原則上,重申一次三要素。低碳、斷食、重訓。
: fast & feast, it's life~~~
--
我無聊 ,所以我存在
--
以下這段『不是鬼扯』,這一個問題,我將減肥師,醫師抽臉抽了很多次。
歡迎大家『熱切討論』
我『鬼扯』的就我沒方法去『精準控制的內分泌』,我能隨手就切出一安士的起司,卻沒有方法去確定 betacell dysfunction 的原因,是添加劑,是精製品,是環境,是農藥,是污染還是其他。而 metabolism 錯亂, betacell dysfunction 也只是『成因之一』。
首先,立論點是,這世界很多人引用的,身體能量使用公式,本來就『出現錯誤』。
TDEE 不是不能算,而是一堆人,包括減肥師使用的算式,『錯誤』
這是我引用了極多次的文件,在 USDA 都有一份
這一份文件的設計,不是為減肥,而是『不把人餓死』
http://www.fao.org/docrep/007/y5686e/y5686e07.htm
5. ENERGY REQUIREMENTS OF ADULTS
BMR ,PAL ,TDEE 意思,自己問谷歌。
但以一個正常人來說。
吃 BMR 的 1.4 左右 ,是下限
吃 BMR 的 1.4 左右 ,是下限
吃 BMR 的 1.4 左右 ,是下限
隨手找一位 55Kg 的女生,基礎代謝都 1100
PAL 1.4 已經是 1540 大卡。
我愛推薦的四群點數法,建議攝取的 1600 大卡,原則上能和這作出呼應。
※※※※分隔線※※※
取 PAL 1.4 ,1600大卡計算。
減重赤字,20%,是 1280 卡。
這是少得不能再少,55Kg 女生的攝取值
假如少於這一數字,已經不是減肥,而是絕命
在文章最後我會有貼圖,到底這一種份量 ...
有多少人能好好的乖乖的吞到肚子。
一大幫『天才』引用 Jason 的資料。偏偏,Jason 的資料,很多都進入了絕命式的範圍。不是 TDEE 不能算,而是熱量赤字極大之下,身體會很能夠去調整能源使用量。
攝食低於 80%,很能夠進入 Starvation mode
Jason 的原因,是 Fasting ,而不是 Starvation.
Fasting 求的,有激效效應意味。
Starvation 引伸的,是延命。
兩者的分別,非常非常大。
假如熱量赤字,又不進入絕對性的 Fasting mode.要維持肌肉量,要採取的食用式,叫 Ketogain .
甚麼都能少,就是不能少蛋白質
要維持肌肉需要確保胺基酸。當碳水赤字過強,誰知道那一種胺基酸會跑到糖質增新 GNG 而沒跑到肌體的重建?
熱量赤字下,最能夠保證肌肉的叫蛋白質
熱量赤字下,最能夠保證肌肉的叫蛋白質
熱量赤字下,最能夠保證肌肉的叫蛋白質
要攪斷食,偏偏只靠直覺?
最好有足夠的胃量。
假如直覺準確,你認為你需要他喵的攪斷食去『減肥』?
不懂得去計算 TDEE ,和不能計算 TDEE
是兩種慨念
喜愛攪內分泌攪血糖攪胰島素,卻連基本會影響血糖的荷爾蒙有四種都不知道
你跟我扯荷爾蒙理論?
閃一邊回個版攪形而上去吧,天才!
It's insurlin? It's food ,Stupid !
http://i.imgur.com/1Yo6iUB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XXjFRsC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5dUs9Q0.jpg
※ 引述《circlelee (非斷不可)》之銘言:
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7oLbFPo6jY
: 原則上分成兩段,第一段講斷食執行的方法、觀念
: 第二段講斷食跟生活整合在一起。
: 我英文翻譯能力不好,也只能大概描述重點,若有誤解還請不吝指導一下
: 第一段的觀念是
: 斷食過程中最好是只喝水就好。
: 不然就喝盡量無熱量的茶或黑咖啡,但代糖、甜味劑不建議
: 他有提到fat fast也就是喝防彈咖啡(黑咖啡加脂肪、奶油or椰子油orMCT)
: 雖然也有一定的熱量但是fat的升胰島素指數很低
: 在較長時間的斷食中也有人會喝含有蛋白質、膠質的大骨湯
: 觀念好的地方在,斷食方法有非常非常多種
: 只要可以讓你好好斷下去,都可以使用
: 他也提到有些方法並非算是真斷食,但這不是重點,他並不在意
: 重點是你道底有沒有因此而獲利、減重、身體變好(這也是我一直強調的)
: 如果有的話,就繼續下去
: 如果沒有的話,你可能就要調整,回到清水斷。
: 我並非打這些是要說服大家我喝拿鐵斷是對的。
: 在以下網頁有講到加牛奶的問題
: https://www.dietdoctor.com/intermittent-fasting/questions-and-answers#variants
: 附上原文
: While fasting is it okay to drink coffee with milk? I can’t do black coffee.
: I have a little milk with my coffee.
: Technically, the milk does not fall within the guidelines of a true fast, but
: the small amount of milk/ cream added to coffee improves compliance
: tremendously for some people. So in our program, we absolutely allow milk/
: cream in coffee, but no sweeteners or sugar.
: ps:有人可能認為我乎略了下一段,但礙於篇幅您可自行去網頁看
: 喝牛奶當然對斷食是不好的,但fung認為也可以允許一點點。
: 雖然喝牛奶的確不能算一個標準的斷食。
: 但對我而言,那是一個工作習慣、說是一種嗜好也可以。
: 我自己的想法是,如果這樣一樣能瘦下去,就繼續下去
: 如果不能,那我的確應該修正成清水斷。
: 但我一週會有幾天中午才喝,至少也可說是斷16,這你無法否認。
: 很多人一直想去區分,道底是熱赤瘦還是斷食瘦,對你可能重要
: 但對我一點都不重要。我可以瘦的健康、瘦的不掉肌肉,我管它是什麼原因瘦的
: 或許對我來說兩者很難區分,或是區分又有何意義?
: 人與人的身體個別差異也不盡相同。對我有用的,不一定對你有用,反之亦然。
: 第二段講的就是如何將斷食融入生活中
: 我很喜歡dr. fung講的,life is matter of balance
: 吃大餐是人類社會很典型的慶祝方式,過年、耶誕節、情人節、婚禮等等
: fast & feast就是一種平衡,人生也才會有樂趣
: 你不會想在這些節慶的時候,憋手憋腳、這個不能吃,那個不能喝
: 白天斷食的時候利用脂肪產生的酮體,精神好
: 晚上放鬆大吃、歡樂又能補充到一天的營養
: 吃飽喝足,好好睡,睡好好,早上起床後繼續再斷
: 我認為這是很好的一種飲食方式
: 斷食也是很有彈性的方法,如果中午要跟同事聚餐大吃,那就考慮skip掉晚餐
: 如果晚餐一定要跟家人吃飯,那就早午不吃
: 那天晚上跟朋友約吃大餐,你白天就可以斷一整天,晚上開心大吃。
: 你仍然可以大吃一口,然後告訴你的朋友你在減肥,他們一定會很驚訝。
: 之後你就瘦給他們看,用自己的身體證明一切。
: 總之你一定可以找到適合你人際生活的斷食模式
: 這些也是我個人認為斷食略勝於生酮的地方,自由度大很多。
: 不過減重原則上,重申一次三要素。低碳、斷食、重訓。
: fast & feast, it's life~~~
--
我無聊 ,所以我存在
--
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