關於「胰島素假說」你是怎麼看法?! - 健身
By Ula
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: 標題: Re: [閒聊] 關於「胰島素假說」你是怎麼看法?!
: 時間: Sat Sep 14 23:34:19 2019
: 推 halulu: 問題是專業的告訴你你也不想理解啊 09/15 00:16
: 我的朋友和我都看新陳代謝科醫生,結果他已經從吃藥變成注射胰島素。
: 我吃藥吃了三年,體重沒減輕,血糖不正常,脂肪肝沒改變。
: 停藥禁食至今不到半年,體重逐漸減輕,血糖逐漸正常,脂肪肝逐漸改善。
: 我為什麼要吃藥?我為什麼不能禁食?
: 我有三位舅舅,大舅糖尿病洗腎,不到70歲死亡。二舅糖尿病,視力受損。
: 三舅糖尿病,最近注射胰島素死在醫院的廁所裏,64歲。
: 二舅媽糖尿病截肢,眼睛看不見。這四位親戚都定期看新陳代謝科醫生。
: 我現在還是定期看新陳代謝科醫生,
我不知道你一直強調你的親友和你在看新陳代謝科的背後意義是什麼
新陳代謝科醫師不是神明 不是有拜有保佑
看了醫師 有沒有真的做生活習慣調整 有沒有運動 有沒有照時服藥
這個才是重點 我從你文字中完全看不出來你的親友到底有沒有控制好血糖
只是一昧強調有看新陳代謝科但是有併發症
我在我工作的院所 成績最好的一間 也只能有7成患者糖化血色素小於7.0%
還有三成未達標
還是有將近一成的患者糖化血色素>9.0%
甚至有病患跟我說 他就是要大吃大喝 我只要開藥就好
所以 有看新陳代謝科 並不代表什麼病都會治好
那也只是代表有在比較專業的醫師門診追蹤而已
在藥物使用上以及追蹤指標等各方面 會比一般診所好
: 但是我的醫生以為我的驗血數據是按時吃藥以後驗的。
: 我的醫生還對我說:你血糖控制得很好。
: 我不敢告訴他我已經停藥好幾個月了。
拜託你 如果已經沒在吃藥
請直接跟醫師說不要開立
佳糖維一顆都很貴的 健保價一顆29.4元
四個月開了拿了沒有吃 等於至少有28天/月*4個月*29.4元=3292.8元被白白浪費掉
前幾年我開佳糖維這類DPP4抑制劑時 健保刻意刁難我們醫師
常常病患符合用藥條件 開了還要核刪我們的藥價甚至還要我們掏錢出來賠
我們還得花時間寫一堆理由去跟健保對抗
結果現在居然有人拿一堆藥不吃還直接浪費掉
如果你只是想定期抽血追蹤
你直接就跟醫師講就好 醫師能少開一顆藥 當然就少開一顆
對醫療團隊不老實的病人 才是糟糕的病患
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: 標題: Re: [閒聊] 關於「胰島素假說」你是怎麼看法?!
: 時間: Sat Sep 14 23:34:19 2019
: 推 halulu: 問題是專業的告訴你你也不想理解啊 09/15 00:16
: 我的朋友和我都看新陳代謝科醫生,結果他已經從吃藥變成注射胰島素。
: 我吃藥吃了三年,體重沒減輕,血糖不正常,脂肪肝沒改變。
: 停藥禁食至今不到半年,體重逐漸減輕,血糖逐漸正常,脂肪肝逐漸改善。
: 我為什麼要吃藥?我為什麼不能禁食?
: 我有三位舅舅,大舅糖尿病洗腎,不到70歲死亡。二舅糖尿病,視力受損。
: 三舅糖尿病,最近注射胰島素死在醫院的廁所裏,64歲。
: 二舅媽糖尿病截肢,眼睛看不見。這四位親戚都定期看新陳代謝科醫生。
: 我現在還是定期看新陳代謝科醫生,
我不知道你一直強調你的親友和你在看新陳代謝科的背後意義是什麼
新陳代謝科醫師不是神明 不是有拜有保佑
看了醫師 有沒有真的做生活習慣調整 有沒有運動 有沒有照時服藥
這個才是重點 我從你文字中完全看不出來你的親友到底有沒有控制好血糖
只是一昧強調有看新陳代謝科但是有併發症
我在我工作的院所 成績最好的一間 也只能有7成患者糖化血色素小於7.0%
還有三成未達標
還是有將近一成的患者糖化血色素>9.0%
甚至有病患跟我說 他就是要大吃大喝 我只要開藥就好
所以 有看新陳代謝科 並不代表什麼病都會治好
那也只是代表有在比較專業的醫師門診追蹤而已
在藥物使用上以及追蹤指標等各方面 會比一般診所好
: 但是我的醫生以為我的驗血數據是按時吃藥以後驗的。
: 我的醫生還對我說:你血糖控制得很好。
: 我不敢告訴他我已經停藥好幾個月了。
拜託你 如果已經沒在吃藥
請直接跟醫師說不要開立
佳糖維一顆都很貴的 健保價一顆29.4元
四個月開了拿了沒有吃 等於至少有28天/月*4個月*29.4元=3292.8元被白白浪費掉
前幾年我開佳糖維這類DPP4抑制劑時 健保刻意刁難我們醫師
常常病患符合用藥條件 開了還要核刪我們的藥價甚至還要我們掏錢出來賠
我們還得花時間寫一堆理由去跟健保對抗
結果現在居然有人拿一堆藥不吃還直接浪費掉
如果你只是想定期抽血追蹤
你直接就跟醫師講就好 醫師能少開一顆藥 當然就少開一顆
對醫療團隊不老實的病人 才是糟糕的病患
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